All of Andres Jimenez's Comments + Replies

Just a couple of points on the original comment about AIM:

• @mildlyanonymous, I'm glad you brought up the perception of the animal movement regarding AIM. I must say, I don't have the same negative perception as you do but this may be biased: 
  • i) motivated reasoning on my part as a AIM incubate, and 
  • ii) feedback I get from the overall movement may be filtered by my interlocutors because of said affiliation
• In any case, I would really invite whoever feels that AIM is 'not collaborative with the movement' to look again. AIM has launched or is planning

I actually don't think that we would be overestimating. Your original intuition was correct. 

The way it works in practice is that buyers ask for a certain size of shrimp (e.g. 14g). This is always quoted in live weight equivalent. Then comes the second criterion of being peeled, etc. This normally means that somewhere between 35-50% of the weight is lost. If we just use 50% for simplicity purposes, there are two possible scenarios:

1. The producer assumes the agreement was for live weight equivalent and there is no change to our numbers, OR
2. The producer as

That is a very good point and one we hadn't really thought of.

The agreements don't specify whether the tonnage commitment refers to live weight equivalent (i.e. whole shrimp) or headless peeled weight. My sense is that, from context, producers are interpreting it as the former. We will think about whether to clarify this going forward in the agreements or whether we prefer the ambiguity as it might work in our favour. 

Regarding monitoring adherence, as of right now, we feel our most sensible approach is to base it on the representations that the produ... (read more)

Thanks for the clarification and encouragement ;)

First and foremost, I want to express my deep gratitude to @MHR, @MarcusAbramovitch  and @Aaron Bergman for kickstarting this discussion in the EA Forum. As mentioned in the post, this is currently SWP’s most cost-effective programme and one that we are very keen to continue to scale in the coming few years. To achieve that, we expect to rely on the support of our existing donors but also on that of the EA Community at large. 

Second, we couldn’t have asked for a better way to get the conversation started than for a third party to look at our prog... (read more)

I'm really looking forward to hearing more about the TII and how other orgs might support or collaborate with you. 

James, thank you very much for writing this thoughtful post!  It presents the argument in simple but powerful ways. 

Edo and Amber, thanks a lot for writing this. I really enjoyed looking back at when my co-founder and I launched SWP! 

I'm happy to chat with anyone interested in discussing this process further. My email is andres@shrimpwelfareproject.org

Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply so thoughtfully!  will definitely look into these resources. 

Ben, this is super helpful! Thank you very much for publishing. Any chance you have come across something related to managing/coping with work addiction? 

Haven (and FWI team), I wanted to publicly thank you for the great work you are doing, both directly and indirectly (including the continuous mentorship we at Shrimp Welfare Project kindly benefit from).  Keep up this level of transparency, it is invaluable for other EAA organizations working with aquatic animals in Asia and elsewhere. 

Thanks a lot!  Hearing that people out there care as much as us about this topic, really gives us a big energy boost.  

PS: we're really proud of our logo as well ;) Thanks to the Charity Entrepreneurship team for their help with it and to Jennifer from Fish Welfare Initiative (...she knows why)   

@Ramiro

A confession: I’ve been a vegan for more than 10 years now and frankly, even though I changed my diet precisely to avoid inflicting unnecessary suffering, I had never really given too much thought to the suffering of aquatic animals until 2-3 years ago. I get where you’re coming from. 

Thankfully, the conscious search of new ways to improve the world by the EA community and Charity Entrepreneurship has now made this a salient issue and placed their trust in Aaron and me to try to make a difference. We will work tirelessly to make your “trap-joke” stop working ;)