All of Aron_Vallinder's Comments + Replies

Thanks, this is a good point. From looking at the qualitative answers that people provided in response to this question, it doesn't appear to have been much of an issue in practice, however.

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Anthony DiGiovanni
5y
I see, thank you - wasn't sure what might have been hidden in "Other." :)

Thanks for the suggestion to use reversed statements. As I said in my response to Larks, I share this concern, so if we run further iterations of the survey, I'll include something along these lines.

I look forward to seeing Sanjay's report!


Thanks for this. I basically share the concern that you and David express, and it would be good to revise the statements accordingly if we run further versions of the survey. But even if the extent of agreement is inflated, it seems reasonable to think that the ordinal ranking should remain the same (so that people agree more strongly with the first text than the second, and believe more strongly that people on the other side of the planet matter just as much than that those in the distant future do).

Yes, those seem right to me. My impression is that most social movements will inevitably have to adapt if they are to survive for longer periods of time. Of course, there's a trade-off here: to adapt one will likely have to compromise on some of the movement's initial values. But at the moment I think that adapting too little is probably a more plausible failure mode than adapting too much.

I don't know where to report technical issues with the site, so I'll just post this here for now. (Please let me know if there's a particular procedure.)

Under 'Nearest Meetups' (I'm in London), there are two events listed, one Super fun EA London Pub Social Meetup on 19 April 2016 and one Petrov Day Meetup on 26 September 2015. The first is presumably a mistake; it doesn't make much sense to include meetups that far into the future, and the second has a broken link. (Incidentally, the error page for the second links to Less Wrong rather than the Effective Altruism Forum.)

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Tom_Ash
9y
You can report issues at the community repository (listed on the EA Forum project page - it's soon to move, but currently at https://github.com/tog22/eaforum/issues ) We're aware of this, see the post The 'meetups' sidebar is temporarily broken and the associated issue in the github repository linked above. Peter Hurford is making sure it gets fixed and we're almost there.

I'm not sure I follow your solution. If I do, here's a possible worry:

Suppose that the group of EA donors agree to match donations to all the n charities at m :1 (up to some limit). Given your setup, many individual members of the group may end up donating their $X to charity B instead of their preferred charity A. For this to be worth it for them, they must presumably think that a donation of $(1+1/m)X to B is better than a donation of $X to charity A, but I suspect that this would often not be the case.

Is that right, or did I misunderstand your proposal?

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Stefan_Schubert
9y
Thanks for this very good comment. You're right. You could adjust the ratio differently to C1,...,Cn, to make sure that all EA contributors to the matching fund have reason to expect more than one dollar in total going to their top charity for every dollar they contribute to the matching fund. E.g., the fund would match donations to charities that non-EAs find less attractive 3:1, whereas charities that non-EAs find attractive could be funded 1:3. I should have been clearer in my comment about this. Regarding illusory matching, my hope is that the idea in the OP could solve the problem of illusory matching.

This GiveWell blog post by Holden Karnofsky is critical of donation matching, for the same reason that you mention:

We’ve discussed whether we might be able to provide “true” donation matching – finding a donor who would give to our top charities only on condition that others did – but not surprisingly, everyone we could think of who would be open to making a large gift to our top charities would be open to this whether or not we could match them up with smaller donors. Ultimately, the only match we can offer is illusory matching.

Fantastic work! The site looks very nice.