All of Jasper Driessens's Comments + Replies

Yes... if you have $3m lying around which you don't need at the moment.

If you buy $3m GLO, you generate the same amount of interest for charity. But you also receive $3m worth of GLO which you can then go and use in the world as money.

As long as the money stays in the form of GLO, it keeps on generating funds for GiveDirectly because we keep on earning yield with the underlying USD.

With your idea, only money that's not currently needed can be put to charitable use. With GLO, money that's being actively used (e.g. what's on checking accounts) can be used as... (read more)

Thanks! The goal is to have a situation where liquidating (i.e. redeeming) is as fast as making a crypto transaction, and can be done at any time with any amount. 

It might be the case that in the beginning it's a little less efficient than this. We'll prioritise getting the token out in the world first and then move towards that level of service. 

Of course, eventually we'll work towards the situation where you won't need to liquidate your GLO to use it as money, either because

  • Your GLO balance is linked to a card that automatically converts to USD
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Jay Bailey
2y
Considering that the scale we're talking about probably involves reaching out to non-crypto people, I feel like my question isn't too basic given that premise: How fast/cheap is "making a crypto transaction" currently? I've heard bad things about how expensive it is but have no idea if that's actually true.
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Brad West
2y
I guess the limiting factor would be the time delay between money as GLO and money as cash. The faster that transition can happen, the more GLO can function as a pseudo-checking account. Like as an EA, it might make sense to put savings in something like an index fund because it allows for greater yields that you could potentially donate or otherwise deploy. This savings yield would probably be like 7-8%, but would be harder to liquidate, so you wouldn't want to 6 put all your money in it. But a checking account has basically 0% interest per annum. GLO is basically 2% per annum (to Givedirectly). So even with the current limitations (i.e. Limited ability to spend with GLO), it could still function as an intermediate checking account. So, if I want to have 20k somewhat easily available and 4k of it readily available, I'd have 4k in my checking account, 16k in GLO. That 16k would be accessible as cash within a few days. Is my analysis correct?

I personally don't feel qualified to represent EA in a talk, but you and the FTT DAO members might be interested in a UBI-generating currency: Global Income Coin, a project that's both web3 and EA concepts.

This is essentially a longterminist motivational video ❤️

Haven't felt this longterminist since reading chapter 2 of The Precipice.

Another example of this is Humanitix [website / wikipedia], a ticketing service like EventBrite.

I've been thinking about the Guided Consumption model as Choice Charity. Do good simply by choosing a different provider—no donations required. 

With Global Income Coin we are following this model as well, except with a currency rather than a product or service.

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Brad West
2y
Just got a chance to read the Global Income Coin and the project of generating a global UBI through seignorage sounds promising and interesting. I'm looking forward to the Zoom call next week and looking for opportunities to potentially work together.
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Vincent van der Holst
2y
Humanitix is a great example, turning something super annoying into good! I will try and reach out to the founders to learn from their lessons.  And don't get me started on GIC, what a concept! I have subscribed to your newsletter and will follow it closely. Great to see more people interested in this model. I might reach out to you as well to learn from what you've learned!

Thanks, appreciate it!

  • I agree, replacing all M0 is 'optimistic'. Plus, even in the most successful outcome it's not at all sure that that's what happens—it could very well be GLO replaces a part of commercial bank created money (i.e. M2 but not M0) instead. The reason we use the number is to have some figure illustrative of the size of the potential. By basing it on M0, this max potential figure is not totally arbitrary, and it also allows for a simple back-of-the-envelope estimate since it assumes a world in which credit-based money creation by commercial
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