All of maximumpeaches's Comments + Replies

80,000 Hours talks a lot about moving to a city where you have more of an ability to have a bigger impact, and names the Bay Area specifically as one such place.

I'm trying to do the most good with my career, and considering moving to one of the cities mentioned above in order to do so.

Mostly just to get other perspectives and see if I'm missing anything from people trying to use reason to help people.

I enjoyed reading your comment and the links you shared. I learned a lot, thank you. I found charter cities and New Science especially interesting since I'd never heard of those areas before.

I think the absence of other nonprofits focused on systemic change encourages me to love CES even more (I understand there may be some nonprofit neither of us have thought about, but it's encouraging to hear from someone more educated in the space that there isn't some big obvious one that I hadn't considered).

A counterargument is that 80,000 Hours alienates a broader portion of the population that would be essential for movement building. That 80,000 Hours is geared towards only a certain well-educated portion of the population is a [known problem](https://80000hours.org/2020/04/which-programmes-within-ea/) that hopefully will be resolved soon.

Thanks for sharing those links. I'd like to check them out. Right now I have a lot of other work to do. My reply is therefore limited. I wanted to share my current line of thinking when I wrote, "I think this could be a f... (read more)

I’m confused. I read here that donating to individual politicians is more effective than donating to PACs, but this article seems to say that GAP is a PAC and has some contribution limit where mega donors can’t donate. The other article made it sound like PACs can be donated to by mega donors.

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Chris McGehee
2y
I think clarifying the difference between a PAC and a super PAC will be helpful. A super PAC can accepted unlimited donations and can spend unlimited amounts, but only on certain items like advertising or lobbying. A normal PAC can make direct contributions to individual candidates. As described in the article you mention,  super  PACs are less effective than donating to individual candidates, but donating to a normal PAC can be similarly effective to candidate donations, provided the PAC is aligned with an effective cause. It sounds like GAP is a hybrid PAC where one pot of money can be treated like a super PAC (unlimited donations, unlimited but restricted expenditures) and the other pot of money is treated like a normal PAC (limited donations, able to contribute to candidates). If you were to help fund GAP, your money would be going toward the latter pot.

The article proposes that the two main ways to be engaged in EA are either a job or donating - but doesn’t mention community building. I think this could be a fundamental flaw in thinking across the EA community and 80,000 Hours (sorry if calling it a flaw hurts anyone’s feelings, but I get the impression people reading this will be okay thinking objectively about whether it’s a flaw). Community building can’t happen because of single individuals, it takes a lot of individuals working together, so I find it striking it’s not mentioned in the article since ... (read more)

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mic
2y
I think 80,000 Hours and related organizations like the Centre for Effective Altruism and Open Philanthropy, at least starting in recent years, actually find community-building very valuable, for some of the same reasons that you've mentioned. It's possible that in the context of this post, community-building was just subsumed in the word "career" but not called out explicitly. Some relevant links: * https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/tag/building-effective-altruism-1 * https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/FjDpyJNnzK8teSu4J/a-huge-opportunity-for-impact-movement-building-at-top-2 * https://80000hours.org/problem-profiles/promoting-effective-altruism/

The article proposes that the two main ways to be engaged in EA are either a job or donating - but doesn’t mention community building. I think this could be a fundamental flaw in thinking across the EA community and 80,000 Hours (sorry if calling it a flaw hurts anyone’s feelings, but I get the impression people reading this will be okay thinking objectively about whether it’s a flaw). Community building can’t happen because of single individuals, it takes a lot of individuals working together, so I find it striking it’s not mentioned in the article since ... (read more)

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Benjamin_Todd
2y
I agree I should have mentioned movement building as one of the key types of roles we need. I did mention it in my later talk specifically about the implications: https://80000hours.org/2021/11/growth-of-effective-altruism/

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Ben_West
3y
Thanks for commenting! Unfortunately applications for this position have closed, but I hope you will apply in a future round, or to one of the other positions for which we are currently hiring, if they are relevant to your skill set.

That invite link no longer works. Can you share steps on how to join? Thanks.

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Nathan Young
3y
Sorry. https://discord.gg/BEFBqX6Qap

Did you end up creating the Discord server? I tried to follow the invite link you posted here, but it didn't work. I would like to join if possible.

Ok so maybe my idea is just nonsense but I think we could come up with super smart humans who could then understand what AI is doing. Like, genetically engineer them, or put a machine in their brain to make them supersmart humans. So, someone who is working on AI safety research isn't working on how to enhance humans like this, and maybe they miss out on that opportunity, which causes relative (though not absolute) harm.

One factor nobody has mentioned is the lack of communication between these organizations and software engineers. On Reddit I see posts all the time with titles like "are there any orgs where I can have a meaningful career?", especially in the /r/cscareerquestions and /r/experienceddevs sub-forums. The people creating these posts have never heard of 80,000 hours or even the term "effective altruism".

I agree with other comments about how jobs might not match with programmer's desires for work that creates career capital (i.e. uses modern tech stack not wordp... (read more)