All of rogersbacon1's Comments + Replies

Very open to it - dual appointments (or whatever) are no problem. If you are doing some kind of work that falls outside the purview of traditional academia/journals and think you would benefit from being a SoS Research Fellow then we are happy to have you. 

re: PS - thanks! This is how we look at it - certainly could fail but worth a shot, let's see how it evolves

Glad you enjoyed it! 

great point re: friends and epistemics. Also makes me think of people who get rich and famous (cough cough SBF cough cough) and become surrounded by yes-men and yes-women instead of friends who can call them out on their bullshit. 

Thanks! 

"It's a bit harder to see how it's tractable. "

Yeah that's the hard one, did the best I could here but obviously most of my suggestions are not super practical/realistic.

what don't you understand, seems pretty clear to me 

This sounds great to me but I'm not the author, I just run the journal. We'd love to have you share your review of the article - "To register, please email info@theseedsofscience.org with your  name, title (can be anything/optional), institution (same as title), and link (personal website, twitter, or linkedin is fine) for your listing on the gardeners page. From there, it's pretty self-explanatory - I will add you to the mailing list and send you an email that includes the manuscript, our publication criteria, and a simple review form for recording votes/comments." 

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brb243
2y
Thank you. I encourage you to 1) Encourage authors of EA-related articles to make their work publicly accessible 2) Post summaries of relevant articles on the EA Forum to facilitate discussion without the need to register and further ease the work of gardeners

"To register, please email info@theseedsofscience.org with your  name, title (can be anything/optional), institution (same as title), and link (personal website, twitter, or linkedin is fine) for your listing on the gardeners page. From there, it's pretty self-explanatory - I will add you to the mailing list and send you an email that includes the manuscript, our publication criteria, and a simple review form for recording votes/comments."


 

I would say that reading the whole piece would clear up these issues - the second half (III and IV) is very different than the first and it might be hard to understand the whole thrust the argument without getting to the end. 

I don't disagree with all of your points here regarding summaries and communicative efficiency. I think my argument is that other values necessarily get sacrificed in the name of efficiency and clarity - aesthetic value, persuasive efficacy, diversity of style/tone. Insisting that every article aims for clarity/efficiency is goin... (read more)

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EdoArad
2y
Thank you, I think I understand your point of view and I think that it makes total sense that you'd prefer to keep this post the way it is. My takeaway is that while I'm personally optimizing for efficiency and clarity, this needn't be the case for everyone in every post and that is fine on the forum (at least to some extent which is likely higher than what we currently have).

Thanks for the suggestion, but I don't think I will add one - not because the article can't be summarized but because adding a summary is kind of antithetical to the whole thrust of the essay. In part, I am arguing  that excessive emphasis on legibility and efficiency in science is killing creativity.  If the lack of a summary means that less people will read it then so be it :) 

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Gordon Seidoh Worley
2y
I can only speak for myself, but assuming my experience generalizes, this means lots of people will miss out on what you have to say. Since you don't have a prior belief that posts by you are worth reading and this post has a vague title that could be about any number of things, it makes it hard to consider it worth the time to invest in reading. So just purely from the pragmatic point of view, I estimate a summary would help get more people to read. The irony is that EdoArad and myself have probably now spend enough time engaging with comments on this post that we could have read it, but I know I still haven't. The comments feel valuable (chatting with a fellow forum member about possible ways to make a post better) while reading the post itself doesn't (since there's not even really much of a teaser to pull me in, I'm just not developing any motivation to read).
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EdoArad
2y
I think you might have a good point regarding legibility. I tend to find myself slightly overagreeable with posts that are presented in a way that conforms to the "EA forum norms" and somewhat rejecting posts with styles that I'm less fond of. In this post, I actually felt more agreeable rather than not at first, not sure why, but less so over time as I just didn't find my footing and that made me confused. This could be because I never actually read the whole post. (I notice now that I've actually spent more time writing these comments than the time it'd have taken me to read the text... I'm sorry about that! )
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EdoArad
2y
I think I disagree with adding a summary being antithetical to the argument of legibility and efficiency killing creativity. First, summaries are important from an explanatory perspective. It helps readers have context for what they are reading, and I think that is especially important as different readers read texts differently. Readers can prefer to read more linearly, or they can prefer to jump around the text however suits their own style. Readers also come with widely different points of view and preconceptions which might make it much harder to linearly control the flow of how the author's ideas are understood. Second, while I agree that adding a summary adds to efficiency, but I don't think that this is an example of the type of creativity-killing overefficiency. Then again, I haven't read this whole post and I'm not sure what your argument is, I can only guess. On a broader scale, do you think that efficient communication is killing creativity?
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EdoArad
2y
Speaking as a moderator, I tried to understand whether this post belongs to "personal" or to "frontpage". In fact, I'd have put this under "personal" (because I thought that this post is more about improving one's creativity) had I not read this comment which gave me some more context.

I think you are definitely right about the oversimplification of the future, but I guess the point here is that we oversimplify in a somewhat predictable way. 

I know one sports story set in the future, available online check it out. 

17776 (also known as What Football Will Look Like in the Future) is a serialized speculative fiction multimedia narrative by Jon Bois, published online through SB Nation. Set in the distant future in which all humans have become immortal and infertile, the series follows three sentient space probes that watch humanity... (read more)

Really enjoyed the writeup!

The book Albion's Seed seems relevant here (see Scott Alexander's book review). It argues that  modern American regional variation in culture/politics can be traced back to the cultures of the people who immigrated to differents areas - Puritans, Quakers, Borderers, and Cavaliers. 

Before I had any idea about any of this, I wrote that American society seems divided into two strata, one of which is marked by emphasis on education, interest in moral reforms, racial tolerance, low teenage pregnancy, academic/financial jobs,

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Michael Magoon
2y
"Albion's Seed" is a fabulous book. If you are interested in how material history affects value or American history in general, it is a must read. To save time, take a look at my summary of this book: https://techratchet.com/2020/04/23/book-summary-albions-seed-four-british-folkways-in-america-by-david-hackett-fisher/