All of Alex Barnes 's Comments + Replies

One person's Value Drift is another person's Bayesian Updating

Great post! Thank you. I love that you are providing coaching for EAs who are aspiring for-profit, social enterprise and charity entrepreneurs.

We recently launched EA Angels to focus on EA entrepreneurs building for-profit startups who are ready to pitch to angel investment groups for funding.

Thank you for writing this! I really like the idea -- working on things with other people is messy and difficult and fun, but also a great way to build useful skills. The skill of understanding what skills you possess and what complementary skills others you work closely with possess seems valuable to develop

Thank you! Great analysis and synthesis of the Randomista and Systemista perspectives. 
 

I hope you take a look at Lant Pritchett's new paper, Development Happened, Did Aid Help? If you find it intriguing, I encourage you to write an EA Forum post about it; your writing is concise and interesting.

Thank you for posting this! I've mentioned your post to people on the EA Supply Chain and Logistics Slack Group

Thank you for writing this! Someone recently shared with me the concept of Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs). I wonder if people with high ACEs scores find solace in EA 

Thank you for posting these great explanations! I realized when explaining EA Angels to someone today that the main benefit of a successful for-profit startup is not always financial capital. After reading this, I think it might be the network and structural capital

Great article! I'm amazed there weren't any references to:

  • Tinder Swindler
  • Bad Vegan
  • Inventing Anna

Maybe that's a "know your audience" thing for the EA Forum, but I assume the same concepts apply...

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MichaelDickens
2y
The most prominent example I've seen recently is Frank Abagnale, the real-life protagonist of the supposedly-nonfiction movie Catch Me If You Can, who basically totally fabricated his life story, and (AFAICT) makes a living off making appearances where he tells his story, and he still regularly gets paid to do this, even though it's pretty well-documented that he's lying about almost everything.

I'm glad to hear you are passionate about the role of for-profit entrepreneurs in EA; the EA Entrepreneurs Slack Group might be of interest to you. 

Regarding crop sustainability, Our World In Data's recent post digs into this: Increasing agricultural productivity across Sub-Saharan Africa is one of the most important problems this century

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Rimaco Greens
2y
Thanks so much, I just joined the Slack Group, looks great

Congratulations! I find the Snowball Fund structure a little confusing, but I'm looking forward to sharing dealflow between the Snowball Fund and EA Angels. We've seen a couple of pitches so far from EA Entrepreneurs at EA Angels:
-EdTech (Europe) - no funding commitments
-FinTech (UK) - 2 funding commitments in discussion

And we have a couple more pitches in the pipeline to see in Apr/May:
-FinTech (Europe)
-RealWorldTech (USA)

My assumption is that there is probably room for several EA-themed funds, syndicates and Angel Investment Groups. At this point, the bo... (read more)

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Peter4444
2y
Great! Looking forward to working together.

Update: I've met with two people so far thanks to Inflection Point and they were both awesome!

I received the email about potential 1-on-1s today. Thank you! 

I forgot 1) you were doing this and 2) I'd signed up. Seems like a really great idea so far; I'm excited to see what happens

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Alex Barnes
2y
Update: I've met with two people so far thanks to Inflection Point and they were both awesome!

Yes! Connecting university researchers with Charity Entrepreneurship charities and other EA orgs could also be extremely valuable. I've helped informally connect the University of Toronto BioZone to a couple of different EA orgs. I don't think this is exactly what you are proposing, but supporting EA-aligned researchers to maximize their impact seems worthwhile.

Thank you for writing this! I appreciate the specific details and clarity. Although I'm not a Developer nor an employer of Developers, I do interact with a lot of Developers. Based on my experience, I think good Developers have a low tolerance for ambiguity -- the code can't "sort of" work and "maybe meet some" requirements. The code needs to work for specific use cases.

Likewise, honesty, transparency and clarity on behalf of potential employers is probably really helpful to Developers in understanding fit (or lack thereof).

Perhaps I'm completely wrong. I'm curious what Developers themselves think. Are there wildly chaotic, high tolerance for ambiguity Developers? Do they thrive in opaque surroundings?

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Yonatan Cale
2y
It is VERY COMMON for developers to hear ambiguous sentences from employers, such as: * "we have the best people" * "we work on cutting edge tech" * "our work processes are tidy and very important for us" * "we help everyone grow" And for the developers to believe this, sign with that employer, and then to be (I don't have the word.. shaken? terrified?) of discovering the reality of the company. So to your question, I am sad to say that these ambiguous "sales" sentences seem to work, commonly once per developer.   To the employers, I will say: The next step is for the developer to be sad, to pretend that everything is ok, and then you have whatever problems you get when you hire someone who has serious second thoughts about being there. It is better to be transparent from the beginning! (I think!)   To the employees: I am happy to help you find questions that will give you unambiguous information about whether this work place fits what you are looking for or not (assuming the employer is not willing to very blatantly lie, which most won't, I think) 

Thank you for posting! Is the above based only on EA-aligned charities? Some cause areas (e.g. Mental Health) may lend themselves to for-profit or social enterprise models. I'm not sure how you'd include those

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Joey
2y
Indeed this is only considering nonprofit funding sources. I think the data would be quite different if also considering for-profit options.

Interesting article! Thank you!! For me, the best social network is LinkedIn, since it is a work and business focused network.

When creating an account for your network above, would I be able to pull in my LinkedIn Profile? If so, that would make your network slightly easier to start using. 

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Mindaugas
2y
Good point about LinkedIn. It seems like it is a very good networking tool for enterprise. It helps to find employees, partners and clients for businesses, and visa versa. Then they network in order to do business together. It looks like LinkedIn covers the needs of business already. So this concept may add no value to them, mainly because of their competitive nature and large scale. Companies will not want to share they day to day activities, nor they day to day goals. But it would add new value for non-profit organizations and effective altruists to solve world problems, because of collaborative nature and decentralization. EA members work towards common goals with decentralized initiative - there is a lot of space to innovate this process, mainly because community like effective altruists never existed before. True, it may be difficult to define goals and start using. Possibly, it may not be an issue - users may find a lot of inspiration from many examples in other profiles. There might be a button to clone those examples and modify them. Goals could be a practical smaller things to achieve. You need something a little bit and you don't know how to get there, you add it to your profile. Possibly in a private hidden mode too. Then AI should search the match. It may be difficult to import LinkedIn profile, because the structure is completely different. Unless artificial intelligence would scan your profile and define goals for you, but that looks not real, unless LinkedIn has some information on profiles that could be converted to goal statements and descriptions?

Great post! Very informative. When I read, 

About ⅖ of the charities each year exceed the cost-effectiveness of the strongest charities in their fields and have been supported by multiple independent funding bodies (Open Philanthropy, GiveWell, EA funds, etc.).

My initial reaction was, "a 40% success rate is too high!" I love that you are expanding and taking more risks. 

My understanding from informal conversations is many CE charities would benefit from simple CRMs and a few from simple ERPs:

  • CRM = Customer Relationship Management -- tracks interactions (outreach, etc)
  • ERP = Enterprise Resource Management -- tracks transactions (cash, physical goods, purchase orders, etc) 

Other EA orgs might have similar needs; a needs assessment might be a valuable project to undertake -- perhaps this has already been done?

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BrownHairedEevee
2y
Yeah. A tech consultancy could conduct software projects for EA orgs in 3 stages: 1. Understand the client's needs. 2. Find out if an off-the-shelf software solution exists (such as an existing CRM). If yes, procure it and adapt it for the client's needs. 3. If not, try to create a new software solution.

Great post! I've been thinking a lot about this lately. 

Thank you for arranging this! It looks like an excellent event. I heard about it from Yi-Yang Chua on the EA Virtual Programs Slack

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Quinn McHugh (he/him)
2y
Sure thing, Alex! We host these discussion groups like this every three weeks. If you have any ideas for a future discussion, feel free to let us know here: https://forms.gle/AcpD58kTbuwih9cYA Looking forward to some productive conversation! :) For other ways to stay in the loop, check out our Linktree.

Thanks! Would students have learned the meta skills and developed better models of how finance works anyway even without the Student Investment Fund?

Thank you for posting this! Incremental improvement in collaboration with "non-EA" individuals, groups and organizations could be more effective than working with EA-only individuals, groups and organizations.

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ruthgrace
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Right! And I think we need some clarification of terms. We can't be calling people who are passionate about, say, effective solutions for homelessness in New York City, "non effective altruists". That's divisive and also kinda rude. I think similar to "chocolate milk" and "milk chocolate", we should have effective altruists, and altruistic rationalists. The second word is the main thing. Anyone who is trying to do any kind of good effectively should be able to call themselves an effective altruist. People who are passionate about doing the most good possible without any bias towards specific people or causes can be called altruistic rationalists. And of course, anyone can do both types of activities, without feeling any shame or guilt.

Thank you! It's great to hear you are putting an emphasis on doing this safely.

Great idea! Museums and Science Centres seem promising.

Universities sometimes have specialized centres (examples: BioZone and Greater Good Science Center) and Student Investment Funds

Tourist Bureaus might be good resources to find listings of GLAMs

Thank you for writing this! Would you be open to helping small EA groups (such as a few in Africa) grow and expand?

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I realize this will sound crazy, but: 

  • Maybe bad mentors are even more important than good mentors

A good mentor will tell you smart things, you'll follow them, see good results and maybe think, "Wow! I'm so lucky to have a good mentor. I'll ask them about X, Y and Z." This reinforces the mentor-mentee dependency cycle

A bad mentor will tell you stupid things, you'll follow them, see terrible results and hopefully think, "Wow! That mentor was terrible. I'll ask someone else about X, Y and Z." This frees up the bad mentor to "help" others.

 A bad ment... (read more)

I realize I'm super late to this discussion, but I strongly agree with the "Network Constrained" aspect. I've started running some experiments with EA Networking events:

The basic idea is most people do networking wrong. They focus on themselves, talk about how amazing they are and then wonder why no one wants to hear about their cool project. My idea: let's put the Altruism back into Effective Altruism and help each other out. Questions to ask other participants:
- what can I do to help you succeed?
- who can I connect you with?

Admi... (read more)

Thank you Jonas for linking to this article on the EA Entrepreneurs Slack Group and thank you Paal, for tagging me in Slack to draw my attention to it.

Also, thank you for linking to What we learned from a year incubating longtermist entrepreneurship. I wasn't previously aware of this article.  I would have been if I'd searched the EA Forum using The Entrepreneurship tag which:

covers posts that discuss entrepreneurial ventures, including nonprofit startups and for-profit startups founded with social impact in mind.

Simon Haberfellner and I talked yester... (read more)

Thank you for writing this! Two questions:

  1. When you factor in cost (money/time), does diaphragmatic breathing demonstrate the highest cost effectiveness?
  2. Recent meetings I've attended from groups such as Global Regenerative Colab and Zebras Unite have included breathing activities, possibly diaphragmatic breathing, is this something to consider including at the start of EA-related meetings?

On that second point, I'm thinking that if you spend 6 minutes (10%) of a 1-hour meeting on breathing, it could be a good use of time if the remaining 54 minutes are 11+% ... (read more)

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Ben Williamson
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Thanks! Re: 1. Yes, almost certainly given the high time investment for CBT and Sudarshan Kriya Yoga. 2. I'd expect that a short breathing exercise could be pretty valuable at the start of meetings for helping people to settle in and boosting attention. More anecdotally, I think practices like this can serve as a useful anchor, helping people reset their focus and creating a separation from what they were previously doing.   It seems plausible to me that a few minutes of breathwork at the start of an hour meeting could be cost-effective time-wise but I would have to look more at the wider benefits of a practice like this to better estimate the extent of the benefit. The intention for the larger project is to assess the benefits of interventions like this across many different areas which will then hopefully provide a useful basis for estimating the total benefit they might bring to certain people/ settings/  etc.   

Thank you for posting this! 

This answer in the FAQ is really helpful for those of us with kids/other dependents:

Absolutely! If you have dependents you need to care for, you can definitely still attend the program and start an effective charity. We’ve had participants in the past who are new parents or who have had other family commitments. CE will provide financial assistance in the form of stipends for the duration of the program where required. We are all about supporting you to make it work.

Thank you for running an inclusive program that aims to me... (read more)

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KarolinaSarek
2y
Thanks, Alex!  If you or anyone else has questions about participating in the program when you have or are expecting children or have other dependents feel free to reach out to me, we can discuss your situation and what support we offer. 

Thanks Ozzie! Glad to see I'm still welcome here!!

I'm sold on the idea of red-teaming (especially for EA and for red-teaming the idea of red-teaming itself). A few concerns:

  1. I have no idea where to begin to start working at red-teaming
  2. I have no idea if I'd even be any good at red-teaming 

Sorry, maybe these concerns have already been covered really well and I missed it. Thanks!

Great article!

At risk of losing my "EA Card" and being permanently cast out of this community with no recourse, could we perhaps maybe "red team" EA itself? [ducks]

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Ozzie Gooen
2y
I feel really bad that you feel like you need to duck here, though I can understand why. Ideally, I think that red-teaming EA  should just really be central to EA.  I think some key people do things like this, but it's tough for junior people to do, because it's really hard to tell between "a good person doing a red-team" from a "grumpy and disgruntled person."  For those (brave) reading this, I do recommend more red-teaming, but I would note that it needs to be done a bit carefully.  For those particularly daring, you can red-team the EA funders :)

Thank you for looking into this and posting about it. I've talked to a couple of EAs about a similar concept in the past. I'm really excited to see what what you find when you start prototyping and piloting this!

Does High Impact Medicine also include folks working as Nurses, Pharmacists, Psychologists, Psychiatrists, OT/PT, Medical Engineering, IT and Hospital Logistics?

Thank you for posting this! 

I'm interested in learning more and seeing how the framework applies in practice:

  • Angel Investing  - both the process and specific startups
  • Technology Deployment - for example, UV-C LED Clean Water in East Africa
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jh
2y
Thanks Alex. On Angel Investing, in case you haven't seen it, there is this case study. But much more to discuss. On Technology Deployment, are there any links you can share as examples of what you have in mind?

We will steal this for EA Toronto. Thank you!

Dear Aaron, 

   I don't think we share the same definition for the word "Retirement". 

Sincerely,

 -average humans everywhere

P.S. Thank you for all your help with the one serious EA Forum article I wrote. Despite you and Hauke's heroic efforts, it was still terrible. Related: did you pay 26 people to vote for it out of sympathy?

Really interesting project. I'm curious about what restarting it might look like...

Maybe VCs use really sophisticated tools, but Angel Investors' most powerful tool is LinkedIn. It's amazing what you can learn about an industry by talking to smart, highly motivated people with years of experience. EAs probably under-use simple tools like LinkedIn, Zoom, AddEvent, calendly, etc

It's amazing how many EA groups don't have a paid Zoom account. Perhaps the process to get reimbursed involves too much paperwork. Maybe a high value project would be to focus on providing subsidies and funds to small EA groups with minimal hassle. You could call it "Give Directly for EA Groups"...

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BrownHairedEevee
2y
*TechSoup for EA groups 😛

More Systems/Complexity aligned Slack Groups:

Nice! Also, if you'd like to get started with Systems and Complexity, there is a Thinking in Systems Reading Group Slack. The book they are reading is Donnalea Meadows' classic Thinking in Systems

 

Yes! Let's build it for email first, this forum next and FB (sorry, Meta) and Twitter never :p

...I think the matrix is already searching for me...

Lunchclub sucks. Their matching is terrible. I tried it a few times and quit. They have focused too much on monetization and not enough on a good user experience. 

Calendly + EAs provide a good platform and community to build on. Feel free to use my calendly and LinkedIn and manually book meetings with other EAs who also have calendly, per Paul Graham -- http://paulgraham.com/ds.html

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