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Ben Stevenson

Animal Welfare Research Assistant @ Rethink Priorities
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Hey Vasco! This is a formatting glitch, which we'll fix, but there's no missing content :)

England prohibits "breeding procedures which cause, or are likely to cause, suffering or injury to any of the animals concerned". Defra claim Frankenchickens meet this standard and THLUK are challenging that decision in court.

Note that prohibiting breeding that causes suffering is different to encouraging breeding that lessens suffering, and that selective breeding is different to gene splicing, etc., which I think is what is typically meant by genetic modification.

Has anybody changed their behaviour after the animal welfare vs global health debate week? A month or so on, I'm curious if anybody is planning to donate differently, considering a career pivot, etc. If anybody doesn't want to share publicly but would share privately, please feel free to message me.

Linking @Angelina Li's post asking how people would change their behaviour, and tagging @Toby Tremlett🔹 who might have thought about tracking this.

Hey Michel! I really liked this post and I relate to "sitting in the same theater as friends from my everyday life yet watching a very different movie". "No-one in my org puts money in their pension" by @tobyj captured the same feelings well.

Thanks, Abraham, I liked reading this! Good luck for an impactful decade to come

Super cool! I'll preorder. Also, I'm sure Jeff won't mind me flagging a similar upcoming book from Jonathan Birch, in case anybody is interested in reading both:

Can octopuses feel pain and pleasure? 

What about crabs, shrimps, insects or spiders

How do we tell whether a person unresponsive after severe brain injury might be suffering? 

When does a fetus in the womb start to have conscious experiences? 

Could there even be rudimentary feelings in miniature models of the human brain, grown from human stem cells? 

... and what about AI

These are questions about the edge of sentience, and they are subject to enormous, disorienting uncertainty. The stakes are immense, and neglecting the risks can have terrible costs. 

We need to err on the side of caution, yet it’s often far from clear what ‘erring on the side of caution’ should mean in practice. When are we going too far? When are we not doing enough? 

The Edge of Sentience presents a precautionary framework designed to help us reach ethically sound, evidence-based decisions despite our uncertainty.  

Thanks for completing the consultation, and for your time assessment (I hope that helps others judge accurately!)

I agree almost entirely. I would only change “knowingly or not” to “knowingly”; there’s no argument from ignorance at this point.

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