Clara Torres Latorre 🔸

Postdoc @ CSIC
125 karmaJoined Working (6-15 years)

Participation
2

  • Completed the Introductory EA Virtual Program
  • Attended more than three meetings with a local EA group

Comments
37

I don't identify as EA. You can check my post history. I try to form my own views and not defer to leadership or celebrities.

I agree with you that there's a problem with safetywashing, conflicts of interest and bad epistemic practises in mainstream EA AI safety discourse.

My problem with this post is that the way of presenting the arguments is like "wake up, I'm right and you are wrong", directed to a group of people that includes people that have never thought about what you're talking about, and people that agree with you.

I also agree that the truth sometimes irritates, but that doesn't mean that if something irritates I should trust it more.

I think there is a problem with the polls showing all the same title

fixed

I feel lumped in with them because you use second person plural. It's not a glitch, it's a direct consequence of how you write.

What I say is: maybe you're right with the pause agenda, I don't know. 

But if you come to a group of people saying "you are just wrong" this is not engaging, and then I feel irritated instead of considering your case.

There's many different people in EA with different takes.

By claiming "you are just wrong" in second person plural you are making it harder to people that are not in the "want to build AI" camp to engage with your object level arguments.

Why don't you defend your point?

I imagine the people that are not part of the AI safety memeplex already could find them convincing. Why not engage with then?

Btw I'm undecided on what the right marginal actions are wrt AI and am trying to form my inside view.

I'm in academia and my plan A is to pivot my research focus to something impactful.

Time will tell though, I'm open to considering other options if they arise.

I'm curious about the distribution of time spent reading the forum, posts read and such. Just nerding for the sake of nerding.

(assuming you are quoting me here, or sharing the sentiment)

Nit: some money I think can be better spent (e.g. having a roof over your head), but I find it very hard to find a better use for the marginal small %

Hi Lorenzo, it was nice to meet you at EA Connect and your takes really resonate with why I donate, especially the idea of "it seems hard to find a better use for that money" (my phrasing)

Hi, thanks for this post. Quite inspiring.

Given that is hard to choose good investments a priori, I imagine building a portfolio of PFG businesses would be a sound approach.

Which I would like to compare to putting the money in an index fund and withdraw a certain amount for philantropic purposes.

I would love to have an estimation of the edge due to PFG driving consumer preferences, media attention, and better deals over the baseline of just putting the money in an index fund.

Do we have an estimation? Some data to cook it, and probably as you say, test it?

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