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If you are so inclined, individual donors can make a big difference to PauseAI US as well (more here: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/YWyntpDpZx6HoaXGT/please-vote-for-pauseai-us-in-the-donation-election)

We’re the highest voted AI risk contender in the donation election, so vote for us while there’s still time!

I should also add the context that Open Phil will not fund us for political reasons. We have no big funders-- it's all down to people like you!

Oh sorry, “exempt employee” is a legal term, referring to being exempt from limits on hours, overtime, mandatory lunch breaks, etc. What I meant was I’m not an hourly employee.

https://www.indeed.com/hire/c/info/exempt-vs-non-exempt-employee

The pledge, for me, is not just about donating the money but about the spiritual hygiene parting with the money and affirming my priorities, so it's very important to me to actually give money I was in possession of. It could work for hours but I'd need to have that same knowledge of making the sacrifice as it was happening. I'm not saying this is the correct or necessary way to view the pledge and I approve of other people using the pledge in the way that best helps them to stay in line with their altruistic values.

It is actual salary. Since I'm an exempt, salaried employee, it's not clear that I could claim pro bono hours, and unless that was very clearly written into my hire letter I feel that doing things that way wouldn't be enough in line with the spirit of the pledge. It's possible we could get the tax benefits and deal with my qualms in the future.

I didn't receive salary I was owed before the org was officially formed (waiting for the appropriate structures to pay myself with a W2), all of which is still an account payable to me, and I've foregone additional salary when the org couldn't afford it, which is owed to me as backpay. In order to donate any of the money that's owed to me, we have to process it through payroll and pay payroll tax on it. 

At this point, I have many years of 10% donations in backpay. Some of it I'm reserving the right to still claim one day. But I'm processing some as a donation for my year-end giving (when I do the bulk of my giving) this year. 

Well if someone has a great suggestion that’s the objection it has to overcome

No offense to forecasting, which is good and worthwhile, but I think trying to come with a bet in this case is a guaranteed time suck that will muddy the waters instead of clarifying them. There are very few crisp falsifiable hypotheses that also get at the cruxes of whether it's better to donate to PauseAI or animal welfare given that that's not already clear to Vasco that I think would make good bets unfortunately. 

https://x.com/ilex_ulmus/status/1776724461636735244

Hmm, I wonder what we would bet on. There’s no official timeline or p(doom) of PauseAI, and our community is all over the map on that. Our case for you donating to pausing AI is not about exactly how imminently doom is upon us, but how much a grassroots movement would help in concentrating public sentiments and swaying crucial decisions by demanding safety and accountability.

My personal views on AI Doom (https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/LcJ7zoQWv3zDDYFmD/cutting-ai-safety-down-to-size) are not as doomy as Greg’s. I just still think this is the most important issue in the world at a lower chance of extinction or with a longer timelines, and that the crucial time to act is as soon as possible. I don’t think the timeline prediction is really the crux.

Doesn’t he abstain voting on at least SFF grants himself because of this? I’ve heard that but you’d know better.

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