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lol "great post, but it fails to engage what I think about when I think of PauseAI"

While Anthropic's plan is a terrible one, so is PauseAI's. We have no good plans. And we must'nt fight amongst ourselves.

Who's "ourselves"? Anthropic doesn't have "a terrible plan" for AI Safety-- they are the AI danger. 

What happens because of these papers? Do they influence Anthropic to stop developing powerful AI? Evidently not. 

I agree with this descriptively, but at this moment in time the way EA evolved to basically require all these things makes me sad because that isolates the idea from the broader world and isolates EAs from pursuing interventions that are outside of their norm, like big tent mass movement building (which I believe is the way forward with AI Safety, but EAs to consider anti-Scout mindset or something).

Agree. One of the things I most appreciate about old school EA is that it took things that used to feel like above-and-beyond altruism in my personal life and made me see that I actually enjoyed those things selfishly. Local charitable giving or going out of my way to help a friend of a friend became less of a burden once I was "off the hook" because of giving money more effectively, and I realized that the reason I didn't want to give that stuff up was that it made me feel good and improved my life.

PauseAI US thanks you for your donation, Bruce! Anyone else who wants to make us the beneficiary of a wager is highly encouraged :)

Yeah, because then it would be a clear conversation. The tradeoffs that are currently obscured wouldn’t be hidden and the speculation would be unmasked.

All the disagreements on worldview can be phrased correctly. Currently people use the word “marginal” to sneak in specific values and assumptions about what is effective.

No, it’s literally about what the word marginal means 

I think people like the “labs” language because it makes it easier to work with them and all the reasons you state, which is why I generally say “AI companies”. I do find it hard, however, to make myself understood sometimes in an EA context when I don’t use it. 

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