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First, I loved this comment. I think we might have more philosophical animal support in the highest places in this administration than ever before.

Second, I'm not going to pretend that animal welfare is predominantly left wing but I've been surprised at the recent reception among right wingers.

nope, the fact that @Karthik Tadepalli verified you shows I am wrong. I am sorry for accusing you. The google scholar link not working seemed like a scam because it would look legit until you clicked it. If you want one more suspicious thing is that you posted it twice. Nonetheless, I apologize wholeheartedly. 

Your google scholar link here works but not on your profile. That was one of the things that led me to believe it was a scam

I think it's worth pointing out that while the US might be the most influential country on the world stage, the vast majority of animals do not reside in the US. A plurality of EAs may be in the US but it's important to remember that the US isn't the whole world and while this may be a small set back, I'm quite hopeful for the animal movement as a whole.

Interesting I'm quite bullish on Vivek for animal issues since I think he ver much has the ear of Trump insofar as that matters and on a random Thursday, he could just get a bunch of executive orders through. Trump is far less ideological than most.

I know this post is a bit of an older post but I question why it needs to be a policy advocacy organization and not a "let's just get this done" organization with some approval by governments with studies done.

I suppose I fear that many people like the allure of policy advocacy because the leverage seems great but in practice there are just a ton of roadblocks at every corner that are lurking when you have to convince corrupt legislators, stagnant and bureaucratic government departments, politicians who mainly care about their re-election/power and looking good short term to voters and more dumb roadblocks.

Because of the down votes, I'll explain why.

I think "holistic" is often a way of simply "doing whatever I feel like in the first place without looking at data" or doing it on "vibes". I think it is the opposite of rigor and evidence.

"Holistic" has to be the word that I feel is most antithetical to EA

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