304Joined May 2020


This is extremely well-written. Thank you for sharing this and I hope you write more! 

I particularly loved this line: "The success of the smallpox vaccine helps contribute to the success of the Apollo Program, not necessarily due to direct scientific lineage, but simply because each success reinforces the meta-meme of newness." That really hits home for me.

This is dope! I've been needing a new backpack and I just ordered one! Love the Moral Consideration for All and the lightbulb galaxy stickers, too! 

Woo! Thank you for sharing this! It looks awesome!

“everyone wanna work in tech but nobody wanna be technical”

This is a FABULOUS name! Kudos!

Loved this post! Thank you for writing and sharing!

I really liked your point about symmetry - if we don't use aesthetics, other movements will, and by not leaning into it and crafting our own aesthetics, they'll be defined haphazardly and incidentally, which we don't want. The Mill + Wordsworth example is also so touching! ❤️

As for the suggestions, classical and solarpunk are both good options (I personally prefer classical), and I'd throw in psychedelic art like Alex Grey's as a contender! 😋

To the points that folks are making in the comments about how much resources should be allocated to aesthetics: art is not something that can be printed en masse like mosquito nets. It wells up and forms organically from the artist, and so we shouldn't push people to create EA-aligned artistic works if they don't feel the desire to do so, otherwise the art will just be lame, canned, or inauthentic. 

I'd love to see art, poems, sculptures, songs, and more about / inspired by EA,  and I think an improved aesthetic would be a boon to the movement!

Well phrased! I'd bet you're right that something akin to this will happen in the future. Solid prediction.

I guess I'm just trying to not be that guy, and I hope everyone else tries to not be that guy too.

Great post  - always fun to see Will weighing in on hot-button issues. 🎉

As for where to draw the line on personal spending and frugality, the example of flying business class on an airplane is a perfect illustration: no one needs to fly business class, and the marginal benefits of extra legroom and early boarding are so not worth the 2x or 3x ticket price, imo. 

To the concern about value drift and optics, our reputation as a movement would obviously be tarnished if folks like Will and Toby (or any of us) bought yachts and mansions. If we can avoid flagrantly conspicuous consumption, that'd be great. Beyond that, we shouldn't be eating rice and beans every night. I want a well-balanced diet of kale and quinoa for every EA doing good work out there!

Let's not forget that SBF cooks his own meals 

Also relevant, I once asked Peter Singer why we don't all walk around in ash and sackcloth in order to donate every spare penny, and his response was "if everyone in a movement you had never heard of before were walking around in ash and sackcloth, would you really want to join?" So even my homeboy Peety acknowledges the importance of optics.

Last point: take the Further Pledge if you're concerned about individual value drift. I took the pledge in July 2021 (capped my salary at $70k USD) and I can attest that it feels fabulous! It's definitely increased my overall felicity. ❤️

This is a great post and my feelings have been almost identical over the years.


Thank you for sharing! I also appreciate you being so candid with your depression - I've found that many EAs are reticent bring up personal/health issues given that the movement mostly impacts us on a quasi-professional basis.

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