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Your response identifies these as AI generated, but does not explain why they lack merit. I skimmed the articles and it is not clear to me why these articles like these should be discouraged, let alone purged from the forum.
Beyond literalism explains the problem of narrow rewards and the need to design systems that internalize second order effects.
From AI Tool to Being discusses the role of memory and existing across time as something that brings about selfhood and indicates consciousness, rather than just intelligence.
The Widow Opportunity Map proposes a way to disseminate information such that resources can be directed to a vulnerable population.
With 50 karma to your post, it bothers me considerably how popular your position seems to be. I have been deterred, on the margin, from generating posts sharing my ideas. With a job at the moment that takes over 60h/week and not being a fast writer, for me it's often between doing a series of iterations with Claude/Chatgpt on an idea, or it not being done at all. I feel increasingly alienated from this community, which I have identified with for like 6 years or more, due to this ascendant view I find rather censorious and prejudiced.
I guess I just would ask that people read stuff and evaluate it before condemning it. If something seems to be AI and you don't want to read further, fine. But going on to condemn it simply on that basis seems very wrong to me. It seems very strange that in this community I am in a small minority thinking this.
Seems there might be something of a negative reinforcement cycle. Less posts/engagement > people less incentivized to visit forum > less posts/engagement > etc.
I'm probably saying something obvious, but it's worth thinking about what might break and reverse this cycle.
Could you please give examples of these posts you seem to be saying are wholly without merit? Scrolling through my feed, it isn't evident to me to what you are referring.
Normal businesses pay at least 25% tax in Australia, whereas Profit for Good businesses (Humanitix, Give Industries, Thankyou) pay no tax, leading to about a 33% yield advantage (1 / 0.75 = 1.333). It is strange that philanthropy more generally does not utilize Australia as an investment opportunity for foundations/ other philanthropic investors.
Re someone with a private equity background. Yes, they would be potentially a very good fit, with the understanding that their primary job would be securing funds for these acquisitions in exchange for bonds on the acquired businesses from philanthropists/income investors.
I actually wonder whether there were more people who opened up to the idea of harm reduction by being an insider within the factory farming system than there were people who were persuaded of the clear foolishness of joining AI companies to try to make a difference (as I think was the satirical point of this post).
I don't understand why you put such a significance on the drafting of the material. Someone could have more problematic use of AI if they simply deferred to erroneous AI research findings and made a post in his/her own words. Someone could brainstorm and follow the erroneous reasoning of an AI and do so in human words. Conversely, AI could draft words where the research and reasoning is checked and the words to express the thoughts are iterated many times between human/AI to come to a very strong and clear method of expressing it.
Your drawing the line at drafting both does not capture many bad uses of AI and also captures many good or great uses of AI, in my view.
I'm not disagreeing with this post (or, in any event, not in the comment to which you replied). I am noting that most of the discussion that I have seen has been pretty against AI-generated writing writ large, conflating the good use of it with the bad use. I am noting my opinion that there is a lot of value in this usage. When I am saying "most of the discussion", I am not talking about this post specifically, but the broader discussion there has been about the use of AI to generate writings.
[requires disclosure] A user has an idea for a forum post, then co-writes it with an LLM, turning a verbal mind-dump into bullet points, into an essay, into bullets again, etc… It turns out good.
I think this category, back and forth idea and drafting iteration between human and AI(s), has an enormous amount of value. The chatbots are very good at both generalizing from pithy insights and organizing material pretty effectively. Discussion and feedback over several rounds, at least for me, can produce content that well conveys my ideas much more quickly than if I were to just do it myself.
I think it is unfortunate that most of the discussion seems to be about demonizing the use of all AI for writing-generation, rather than distinguishing the good for the bad, and encouraging its positive use to enable contributions that otherwise just would not have happened.
For what it's worth, I appreciate you reading the posts of new users.
Your response identifies these as AI generated, but does not explain why they lack merit. I skimmed the articles and it is not clear to me why these articles like these should be discouraged, let alone purged from the forum.
Beyond literalism explains the problem of narrow rewards and the need to design systems that internalize second order effects.
From AI Tool to Being discusses the role of memory and existing across time as something that brings about selfhood and indicates consciousness, rather than just intelligence.
The Widow Opportunity Map proposes a way to disseminate information such that resources can be directed to a vulnerable population.
With 50 karma to your post, it bothers me considerably how popular your position seems to be. I have been deterred, on the margin, from generating posts sharing my ideas. With a job at the moment that takes over 60h/week and not being a fast writer, for me it's often between doing a series of iterations with Claude/Chatgpt on an idea, or it not being done at all. I feel increasingly alienated from this community, which I have identified with for like 6 years or more, due to this ascendant view I find rather censorious and prejudiced.
I guess I just would ask that people read stuff and evaluate it before condemning it. If something seems to be AI and you don't want to read further, fine. But going on to condemn it simply on that basis seems very wrong to me. It seems very strange that in this community I am in a small minority thinking this.
Seems there might be something of a negative reinforcement cycle. Less posts/engagement > people less incentivized to visit forum > less posts/engagement > etc.
I'm probably saying something obvious, but it's worth thinking about what might break and reverse this cycle.
Could you please give examples of these posts you seem to be saying are wholly without merit? Scrolling through my feed, it isn't evident to me to what you are referring.
Hi Jake,
Normal businesses pay at least 25% tax in Australia, whereas Profit for Good businesses (Humanitix, Give Industries, Thankyou) pay no tax, leading to about a 33% yield advantage (1 / 0.75 = 1.333). It is strange that philanthropy more generally does not utilize Australia as an investment opportunity for foundations/ other philanthropic investors.
Re someone with a private equity background. Yes, they would be potentially a very good fit, with the understanding that their primary job would be securing funds for these acquisitions in exchange for bonds on the acquired businesses from philanthropists/income investors.
I actually wonder whether there were more people who opened up to the idea of harm reduction by being an insider within the factory farming system than there were people who were persuaded of the clear foolishness of joining AI companies to try to make a difference (as I think was the satirical point of this post).
This is actually a quite apt summary.
I don't understand why you put such a significance on the drafting of the material. Someone could have more problematic use of AI if they simply deferred to erroneous AI research findings and made a post in his/her own words. Someone could brainstorm and follow the erroneous reasoning of an AI and do so in human words. Conversely, AI could draft words where the research and reasoning is checked and the words to express the thoughts are iterated many times between human/AI to come to a very strong and clear method of expressing it.
Your drawing the line at drafting both does not capture many bad uses of AI and also captures many good or great uses of AI, in my view.
I'm not disagreeing with this post (or, in any event, not in the comment to which you replied). I am noting that most of the discussion that I have seen has been pretty against AI-generated writing writ large, conflating the good use of it with the bad use. I am noting my opinion that there is a lot of value in this usage. When I am saying "most of the discussion", I am not talking about this post specifically, but the broader discussion there has been about the use of AI to generate writings.
I think this category, back and forth idea and drafting iteration between human and AI(s), has an enormous amount of value. The chatbots are very good at both generalizing from pithy insights and organizing material pretty effectively. Discussion and feedback over several rounds, at least for me, can produce content that well conveys my ideas much more quickly than if I were to just do it myself.
I think it is unfortunate that most of the discussion seems to be about demonizing the use of all AI for writing-generation, rather than distinguishing the good for the bad, and encouraging its positive use to enable contributions that otherwise just would not have happened.