All of Joy Bittner's Comments + Replies

Thank you Stephen, I feel really blessed to get to be part of this team, and grateful for all the people who trust us to help them.

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so appreciate you and everyone there.

really great post, and as someone who lives in the global south, you're money probably when so much further than one would ever expect. thank you

Hi Mike, thanks so much for all your support and these thoughtful points. 

Yes, there are additional costs associated with geographic expansion, and we believe these costs are justified for several reasons:

Testing Demand and Adaptation: By expanding to more rural locations, we aim to assess the demand for and adaptability of our services. Urban life in Quito is fast-paced, and we've noticed various factors competing for people's attention, making it challenging for group attendance. Most other g-IPT programs operate in rural settings, where individuals... (read more)

Similarly, would like to know if it's possible to add Vida Plena? (I would imagine many orgs would like to know how they can also be considered for the donation election.)

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Lizka
5mo
Hi! Sorry for the delay in my response here:  * Unfortunately, we could only list organizations from here as candidates in the Donation Election this year (largely due to vetting capacity and the current system we’re using for the election). I tried to make this clear in the announcement posts, but I think it ended up being confusing. * However, we can add your project in the Giving Portal here if you send us a logo,[1] a link to a fundraiser or your donation page (which ideally also shares some information about what you do and why people should consider donating), and a link to a description of your work (your website probably works). We might also add a page in the Election Portal (and elsewhere) that highlights projects we couldn’t feature but which people should consider donating to (and which have been active on the Forum this Giving Season), so we’d use the logo/links there, too. * @Bruno Sterenberg and @Joy Bittner - please let me know if you’re interested (feel free to email or DM me via the Forum), and apologies once again for the delay and confusion! 1. ^ PNG or JPEG, ideally somewhat square-ish (although we can just add extra white space around non-square logos)

Thank you so much, Philippe! Yes, we are excited about the possibilities of combining insights from different fields and seeing what the date shows us.

TLDR: Vida Plena, which provides WHO-endorsed group therapy for depression in Ecuador, seeks $200,000 for behavioral science research, $50,000 for expansion to new regions, $9,600 annually to hire an additional Group Facilitator or $120 to provide treatment to one person.

See our full marginal funding forum post here.

I'm the co-founder of Vida Plena, a nonprofit organization tackling Ecuador's mental health crisis through cost-effective, proven group therapy led by local leaders from vulnerable communities.  We do this through the direct implement... (read more)

same! the 5am start time is a bit rough. thank you so much!

Hi Jason, thank you so much for thoughtfully bringing up this important question. While we do concur that the likelihood of Vida Plena increasing suicidal risk is low, we firmly believe in the importance of considering all possibilities.

Firstly, we want to emphasize that we are following the suicidal risk protocols established by the expert team at the Global Mental Health Lab at Columbia University, and we have been fortunate to receive ongoing mentoring from them throughout the course of these cases.

Broadly speaking, research shows this is unlikely. For ... (read more)

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Jason
9mo
Thanks -- that makes sense to me. And even an increase in reported ideation against controls wouldn't necessarily tell us that the program increased suicial ideation as opposed to increasing willingness to report ideation that existed.  I'm pretty confident that the participants are better off for being enrolled in the Vida Plena program with proper protocols in place. However, if a relatively high rate of emergency crisis situations continues in future studies, it seems like that could be a major bottleneck / challenge for Vida Plena's scalability.

HI Jemina, 

The program is made up of 9 sessions in total, once a week. So aprox. 9 weeks. 

Thank you so much for your support! Yes, its been a great journey! 

Muchas gracias, Simón, por llamar la atención este tema. A pesar de que no soy hablante nativo de español, estoy muy de acuerdo contigo sobre la importancia de no solamente traducir materiales al español, sino crear materiales desde el español para generar nuevas formas de pensar, mejor vinculado al contexto regional. Aunque entiendo la decisión de los organizadores del EAGx tener un gran parte de las presentaciones en ingles en esta primera edición, los anima que al futuro la mayoría sean en español. 

 

Cuando tuve la oportunidad de... (read more)

Hi Jason! Thank you so much for all your very thoughtful comments and ideas! (and also for your decision to support us in 2023!) Want to take a minute to respond to some of your points:

Funding from non-EA sources: absolutely! We are so grateful that the EA-community is willing to take some risks on new organizations before they have a track record. With the results that we are able to demonstrate early on, we are absolutely planning on applying for counterfactual funding. In fact, as an example of this we were just selected to be part of the South Park Com... (read more)

Thank you so much, Judith! I am so deeply grateful for all that CE has been for me personally and Vida Plena!

Hi Simon, thanks for your questions and you bring up good points!

For the facilitator training hours, it was a mix of in-person and virtual:
- 2 days of orientation in person 
- 4 days of interpersonal therapy training.  We had the group gather in-person, but the training was actually led virtually by a team from Columbia University. So potentially in the future, people who are unable to attend in person could attend virtually only
- the remainder of the training hours occurred during weekly supervision meetings which happens fully virtually&nbs... (read more)

HI Simon, thanks for the feedback - while I don't have access to the StrongMinds budget, based on their public tax returns, one difference I can point to is that we do not have any US-based staff (and subsequently, any US-rate salaries).  In general, I would also add that we only have one type of intervention,  whereas StrongMinds has added additional services/departments, which are likely critical and very beneficial, but harder to measure impact. 

I'm happy to share our 2023 budget with anyone who would be interested: joy@vidaplena.global    

I also worked with Markus during his pilot phase, and his work was extreamly helpful in helping us figure out some technical bits that he was able to do very quickly, but would have taken me hours (maybe would have just never been able to fix alone). I was exceptionally grateful for his help and it just gave me so much faith in the EA community that such a service would even exist.  Still feel really grateful for all his help.

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Markus Amalthea Magnuson
1y
Thank you for the kind words.

The Happier Lives Institute (HLI) is hiring an Operations Manger.
(application deadline: June 6th)

HLI conducts research into the most cost-effective, evidence-based ways to increase happiness. We then share what we’ve found with donors and decision-makers so they can take action. 

:) It was thanks to thoughtful questions from people like you that made me thing this might be helpful to share! 

thanks so much for sharing these thoughts, Joey. Really clearly laid out and so important to be able to understand the nuances. 

these are great additional examples, Sara! thanks for adding. 
and yes, I completely agree its about 'removing obstacles before they happen'! good insight! 

Caro
2y15
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This is such a great summary, thanks, Joy!

Building on what Sara said, I would add that there is also an "invisible part" which I would name "building a thriving Culture", notably by organizing social events, or listening to people when they have issues in their work (and sometimes personal lives) and find ways to solve those. The idea is to continue building a high level of trust and engagement... and maybe make work fun too? :) 

really great to hear about your experiences as well! Very much agree, its a challenge to keep focused on the bucket of 'important priorities' and not just get caught up in 'fire-fighting' mode. What do you find works for you to keep that focus?

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kdbscott
2y
My best tool is to become a connoisseur of what it's like to be shifting into reactive / fire-fighting mode, and make a craft of switching back to prioritizing.  (responding to this post has the sort of dizzy pulling-away feeling that reactivity has, so I'm going to yolo submit and try to shift back to proactive mode) 

Thanks so much, Akash! Hopefully it can be helpful!
A lot of this is pretty specific to doing ops for smaller nonprofits - alot of big companies will also have ops staff as well, and they be doing things that are quite different! but the general concept of internal-focus and problem solving will be the same!

thanks for the kind feedback! It is really satisfying to know you are helping make sure that the org is a good place for people to work and also, hopefully grow and thrive! 

so, so agree with this comment, think its a huge oversight:

"-Spot regional differences within countries when answering different types of questions: Even if my country's GDP is higher than many countries where effective donations according to EA are allocated, there are many regions within my country where poverty is extremely high, even higher than in richer cities from poorer countries. Those differences are hard to spot if EA spots “poverty” as a whole without zooming in geographical zones."

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AmAristizabal
2y
Thanks! It would be great to see more research about this