Definitely... We expected no effect at worst, so at least it was trialled small and in a well-controlled manner! Do share if you have opportunities, so that it's not repeated or rolled out somewhere. Thanks!
We'll see what the data show and post an update once we make a decision.
Thanks for putting this together, Ren!
Double link for Animal Advocacy in the Age of AI (EA Forum), I think.
Thanks for the feedback Tristan. Yes, really happy with the hire!
Great idea with the narrative-type write-up! I definitely see how it could read better.
Thanks for sharing this - interesting! Would your opinion on the mandatory use of CCTV change significantly if you considered on-farm CCTV instead?
Thanks for the feedback, pete! I've just gotten rid of AW. We'll read it once more to see where we can reduce the use of some of the others, too.
Interesting! It sounds like you'll have more rounds of this program later. E.g. in a year? How likely is that, would you now say?
Thanks for sharing and all of your great work! I still find estimating and comparing cost-effectiveness difficult to grasp, but, roughly, how would you say the potential cost-effectiveness of such an intervention (i.e. 12 welfare points per dollar) compare to that of cage-free campaigns (as defined in https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/L5EZjjXKdNgcm253H/corporate-campaigns-affect-9-to-120-years-of-chicken-life )? Thanks!
Thanks for the question! I generally believe that it is hard/impossible to reliably compare CEAs done using different methodologies and approaches. For example, Saulius’ CEA has a different goal than ours and takes into account the overall, average cost-effectiveness of all historical work on cage-free campaigns. In contrast, we look at the marginal, future cost-effectiveness of a feed fortification ask. Naturally they will differ a lot. I would expect that marginal cage-free $ would be lower impact than average historical cage-free $.
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It seems that at least some European countries are seriously considering a meat/climate impact tax. What impact, do you expect, this could have? Do any unexpected potential flow-through effects come to mind?
Which issues/cause areas, do you think, could benefit the most from undercover investigation footage?
Thanks!
I'm seeing more and more being published on various photonics/plasmonics techniques. Could be promising. I'm hearing the ultimate goal is on-site, rapid automatic pathogen identification at <5 euro/sample.
Thanks for your great work! With respect to "Farmers reported that insects, especially crickets, will eat other insects if not provided an outside source of chitin.", do producers use insect-derived chitin as a supplement? If so, do you have a published reference for this?
Do you know how small of a fraction of your presented figures are animals kept alive for breeding (e.g. adult flies or mealworm beetles)? Do you know anything about their lifespans/mortality/fate? Thanks!
Thanks for the great write-up, guys! Do you know how expensive are the methods currently employed by conservation groups (e.g. cost per sample, etc.)? Do you think low cost, quick testing tools currently under development for disease prediction and control in high-density farmed animal systems could be adapted?
Thanks for answering, Peter! Yes, I've gone through those great resources already. I simply thought of asking the question during this AMA as maybe some new ideas arose since publishing. Thanks again!
Hey all, thanks for all that you do!
Fish and, potentially, invertebrates will probably be the most intensively farmed animals for quite some time. What fundamental research, do you reckon, is most needed to spearhead their protection and welfare? Thanks.
For fish, I'd refer you to the "Questions for Further Consideration" section of the ACE Farmed Fish Report (which we contributed research to).
For invertebrates, we wrote a three part series on next steps for research: see Part 1 on fundamental research, Part 2 on intervention research, and Part 3 on attitudes research.
Is it just me or is the map image link broken?