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Fai

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PhD student (in bioethics) in the National University of Singapore

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Thanks for sharing! I have a follow up question:

This is why we are intentionally spending more of our effort looking for opportunities in Africa to prevent and roll back intensive farming methods liked caged hen farming

Is the rise of caged broiler systems also under your radar? That includes its rise in China (where this system started), Asia, and Africa.

Thank you for the post! 

Protect numerous and neglected species from intensive confinement systems as new forms of animal agriculture emerge

I wonder if you consider the potential rise of meat consumption in Africa due to the projected wealth increase in many African countries to be one of the greatest new factory farming crisis? And if yes, do you consider that to be one of the greatest priority areas? 

I actually don't have anything substantive to say. But since I often read your posts and not comment or say thank you (but I usually upvoted), so for once I would like to say thank you for your interesting, stimulating, and often important work!

Thank you for the clarifcation! And thanks for engaging in the conversation!

Thanks for the reply!

it would make sense to focus on layers in the Middle East until hitting diminishing returns there. 

I wonder why you hold this view. It seems to me that for the caged layer issue, it's a reversion problem because the vast majority of laying hens in the Middle East are already caged, while for the caged broiler issue, it can still be seen as a prevention problem because many broilers are still not yet in caged systems. And it seems to me that it's plausible that a prevention might be easier and more effective than a reversion?

Thank you for the post! I have a question.

3. Cage-free farming in the Middle East

I wonder if this org, if incubated, might potentially expand to the issue of caged broiler farming?

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100% agree

We should prioritize slowing the spread of industrial animal agriculture in future high-production regions over investing in advocacy in currently high-production regions that remain neglected in terms of farmed animal advocacy.

I support this, I gave an EAGx (Singapore) talk basically arguing for this (maybe a more general point, that we should focus much more on prevention)

Thank you for the post. I have a follow-up question which I hope you or Givewell can answer: Do Givewell also give cage systems to people in need, or teach them how to use cages, or both? I am asking because I have seen livelihood projects that do one of these. If my memory is not wrong, they include FAO, World Bank, the Dutch Government, and Heifer (yes, they don't just give cows, they give chickens too and teach them how to use cage systems).

Hi Cameron, 

Did you see Chytrid Fungal Infection and Frog Welfare — EA Forum?

It would be great if you can respond to it too.

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Thank you very much for writing the post. Albeit unsurprising, it's somewhat disheartening to see this post being much less popular than the frog slaughter one. I have to say excluding tractability, I probably care about this issue than frog slaughter more.  

 

Do you have a sense of the tractability (which includes making enough people care about this) of this issue, and what can be done to increase it? 

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