Yeah one of my biggest issues with the evangelical church I went to was this idea that even doubt is a sin; it was a very different experience leaving EA for over a year with no intention to return and receiving zero pushback (re leaving or rejoining).
Thank you for sharing.
Yeah I regret taking as long as I did to leave, but I think that guilt was particularly messed up.
Aged 25, I leave the movement that has been most important in my life so far: Christianity.
Some things I wish I’d said to myself:
I was a conservative evangelical Christian and had been since childhood. I stuck to a relatively literally interpretation of the Bible. I didn’t drink, I hadn’t had sex, I attended church several times a week. I lived in a community of 30 people who supported and critiqued one another about the most intimate details of our lives. I’ve written more here.
It was hard to leave:
I acknowledge this isn’t how Christianity is for everyone, though I will argue that conservative evangelicals aren’t exactly handing out pamphlets on how to leave. Making it hard to leave is a feature, not a bug and it’s one I’d like not to replicate.
This post is written about a specific belief system and a specific person. I also give advice to others who might leave communities.
I wish I had considered the actual outcomes. What were the things that I was fearing? I guess it was going to Hell, which is a trickier fear than most, a log jam in my brain, that I feared to touch, let alone remove.
I think it’s worth considering this for all kinds of decisions - jobs, relationships and communities. If your brain doesn’t know what you’ll lose by leaving, why are you there?
I wish someone had told me this. That it was probably gonna be fine.
Part of what took me so long was fare. I was scared of finding new friends, having sex, having money without having to beg my parents.
It was fine. I surprised myself by how capable and adaptable I am. I wish someone had held me and told me that I was going to do better than I’d have expected. Perhaps I’d have left a lot earlier than I did.
If you are going to leave a community, you are probably gonna do better than it seems. Solve problems 1 at a time. You’ve made it this far.
I was terrified of actually thinking about my faith and ending up in Hell. Terrified of being disloyal, of having to explain my thoughts.
But if something is worth believing in, I think there has to be some chance it’s false. The Christianity I believed in was like an abusive partner, harassing and terrifying me about how I would be punished if I left or even considered leaving. I now see that as a clear red flag. If a community makes it hard to leave - get out. If it turns out to be good, you can always rejoin.
If your community is giving you good things, then you can write them down. And you can write down the bad things too. Because if it’s a thing your future self is gonna want, the good list should contain bigger things.
I wasn’t happy. And somehow people didn’t say that to me. And I didn’t say that to myself. Happiness isn’t everything, but it’s a useful internal signal. If I am not happy it is worth listening to my body and wondering why.
Are you sad? If so, that’s notable. Is your community making you sad? That’s notable too.
Threats of Hell aside, there are things that I could tell Christian me. These last 4 years have been immensely valuable to me. I have learned:
These were things that, were I to return to Christianity, I would be glad to know. But by making it so difficult to leave, it became all or nothing.
If you leave a community, go with my blessing. And tell me what you find! I will probably be glad to know.
I lost a couple of friends as a result of leaving, but mostly it has been fine. Those people I wanted to be close to I still am.
This is hard to hear, but the friendships that you actually lose will be ones that you’d have been happy to lose anyway.
I am certain that my Christian friends would take me back if I returned to the faith. I don’t know why I couldn’t think that at the time. I guess I was looking for reasons not to think about it. I wish someone had pointed this out to me “They will take you back, explore what’s out there”
Humans have a trait called “loss aversion” which means we fear loss more than we enjoy gain. If a decision is mostly reversible, you should feel pretty ambivalent about the loss, which can be reversed. But your body doesn’t know that. It fears losing even what can be recouped.
I think many decisions aren’t even theoretically about your immortal soul, so consider if they are reversible.
Finally, I wish someone had pointed out that when you understand why you fear something, then fear in itself isn’t bad. As I said above, emotions are useful indicators. I should ignore them at my peril. But once I understand my fear, I can push through it.
If you seek to leave a community and don’t know why
I think, at the bottom of all this was a fear and hatred of myself. That I didn’t deserve happiness and that I couldn’t bear to see myself in the cold light of day. I wish I had held myself, that brave scared man and said “I like you, I love you, we will get through this”
I don’t know you, but I’d probably like you. And I’m sure I would love you - I find people very easy to love. So maybe you should too?
Also shout-out to Julia_Wise's excellent post on this topic in an EA context.