Scriptwriter for RationalAnimations! Interested in lots of EA topics, but especially ideas for new institutions like prediction markets, charter cities, georgism, etc. Also a big fan of EA / rationalist fiction!
The Christians in this story who lived relatively normal lives ended up looking wiser than the ones who went all-in on the imminent-return-of-Christ idea. But of course, if christianity had been true and Christ had in fact returned, maybe the crazy-seeming, all-in Christians would have had huge amounts of impact.
Here is my attempt at thinking up other historical examples of transformative change that went the other way:
Muhammad's early followers must have been a bit uncertain whether this guy was really the Final Prophet. Do you quit your day job in Mecca so that you can flee to Medina with a bunch of your fellow cultists? In this case, it probably would've been a good idea: seven years later you'd be helping lead an army of 100,000 holy warriors to capture the city of Mecca. And over the next thirty years, you'll help convert/conquer all the civilizations of the middle east and North Africa.
Less dramatic versions of the above story could probably be told about joining many fast-growing charismatic social movements (like joining a political movement or revolution). Or, more relevantly to AI, about joining a fast-growing bay-area startup whose technology might change the world (like early Microsoft, Google, Facebook, etc).
You're a physics professor in 1940s America. One day, a team of G-men knock on your door and ask you to join a top-secret project to design an impossible superweapon capable of ending the Nazi regime and stopping the war. Do you quit your day job and move to New Mexico?...
You're a "cypherpunk" hanging out on online forums in the mid-2000s. Despite the demoralizing collapse of the dot-com boom and the failure of many of the most promising projects, some of your forum buddies are still excited about the possibilities of creating an "anonymous, distributed electronic cash system", such as the proposal called B-money. Do you quit your day job to work on weird libertarian math problems?...
People who bet everything on transformative change will always look silly in retrospect if the change never comes. But the thing about transformative change is that it does sometimes occur.
(Also, fortunately our world today is quite wealthy -- AI safety researchers are pretty smart folks and will probably be able to earn a living for themselves to pay for retirement, even if all their predictions come up empty.)
Note this is a joke, a play on the word "underclass" versus "underclassMEN", which is a word used in anglo countries to refer to freshman and sophmores at university. I'm not actually a fan of the "permanent underclass" idea; I think it's dumb (basically for the reasons explained in the astral codex ten "permanent moon ownership" essay). Hence my attempt to make fun of the idea.
Definitely agree that shooting down GPS satellites (or satellites of any kind, really) is a really agressive move that would make all countries super mad at you, thus probably only happens in a pretty serious "all or nothing" great-power conflict!
I'll try to talk more about the military dynamics around GPS in my later post, although I'm not an expert. My impression is that although militaries do indeed have lots of backup systems, none of them is perfect and some systems (like many existing drones and guided bombs) do rely exclusively on GPS, so losing GPS would still be a big problem even though the military has done a lot of work to try and ensure that it wouldn't be a totally overwhelming catastrophe.
Commercial planes would probably get lost a little bit more often?? (The original incident that motivated the USA to opening up GPS for civilian use was in 1983 when "Korean Air Lines Flight 007 was shot down when it mistakenly entered Soviet airspace".) But it's not like planes NEED GPS in order to find their way -- commercial aviation is (rightfully) obsessive about safety and redundancy, so planes have lots of ways to stay oriented (even in storms / at night / etc), including:
- Inertial navigation systems: per claude, "Every airliner carries ring-laser-gyro or fiber-optic inertial platforms that track position by integrating acceleration from a known starting point. They need no external signal at all. They drift — on the order of a couple nautical miles per hour of unaided flight — but modern aircraft run multiple IRUs and blend them, and over a typical flight the drift is manageable and bounded by periodic updates."
- A variety of old-school navigation systems that the FAA specifically requires be kept in place precisely as a GPS backup, including for instance "VOR" beacons which are basically radio-signal landmarks scattered across america, emitting simple radio signals that planes can measure their distance & bearing to. (I assume all other developed countries also maintain similar navigation backups.)
- Ground-based flight controllers (ie the people who hang out in those airport control towers) have access to radar systems and thus can see exactly where all the planes are, and help guide planes even if the planes themselves get confused about their position.
You might think "sure, there are backups, but mightn't you still end up with overloaded systems if everyone suddenly has to switch to using unfamiliar backups?" But it must be the case that aviation is (like the finance industry which has resilient backups for all their precision-timing needs) sufficiently paranoid that their backup systems are actually up to the task of smoothly taking over -- the UK study looked at aviation but considered that the consequences of a 7-day outage would be negligible. Overally, the situation might be a little bit like the situation with the power grid -- the power grid doesn't need GPS for any of its normal functioning, but GPS timing information is an important tool for debugging / monitoring / maintaining the power grid, so the system gets more fragile without it. The civil aviation system in theory should be almost unaffected by the loss of GPS, but in practice you've lost one layer of your multilayered swiss-cheese-defense against accidents, so accidents are going to go up slightly.
Of course, for unmanned drones (which in many cases only have GPS), a GPS outage would be disastrous.
For military rather than civilian aviation, I think the airplanes themselves would probably find their way around fine in most circumstances, but GPS-enabled weapons (like JDAM guided bombs) obviously wouldn't work, and the situation on the ground (tanks, vehicles, logistics stuff) would probably get messy in the same way that civilian ports & logistics stuff would get jammed up.
There are definitely some people out there (and these people are overrepresented among hardcore environmentalist types, of course) who seem to indeed have adopted "nature" as a kind of hippie religion that seems to have originated (or intensified) sometime in the 1970s. But this doesn't strike me as explaining all or most of how ordinary people value nature:
One big point where I do think "nature as religion" matters a lot, though, is in shaping the *environmentalist movement* itself, since the movement is disproportionately steered by people who are really into nature-as-religion. Therefore our laws/norms about the environment, the way most academics/intellectuals discuss the value of nature, the sorts of things that are considered taboo within environmentalism (eg geoengineering, gene drives, etc), all end up significantly warped by the perspective you described, even though IMO it isn't the main way most ordinary people relate to nature.
Fooming Shoggoths! (And, more generally, much of the secular-solstice music -- there's already a database full of this somewhere.)
EcoResilience Initiative (https://ecoresilienceinitiative.com) works on this, in particular on non-climate-related stuff. They agree with Giving Green that, counterintuitively, Good Food Institute (usually talked about by animal-welfare fans) might actually be one of the most promising charities in terms of protecting biodiversity and the environment, because if plant-based meat ever took off in a big way it would have massive effects on agricultural land use (ie much less deforestation & habitat destruction would happen).
They can keep their old branding if they just put an asterisk after "hours" and explain that 80,000 Hours* now refers to human-worker-hour-equivalent efforts spent on highly-effective cause areas (aka "effective compute"), not necessarily literal human labor hours.
To answer with a sequence of increasingly "systemic" ideas (naturally the following will be tinged by by own political beliefs about what's tractable or desirable):
There are lots of object-level lobbying groups that have strong EA endorsement. This includes organizations advocating for better pandemic preparedness (Guarding Against Pandemics), better climate policy (like CATF and others recommended by Giving Green), or beneficial policies in third-world countries like salt iodization or lead paint elimination.
Some EAs are also sympathetic to the "progress studies" movement and to the modern neoliberal movement connected to the Progressive Policy Institute and the Niskasen Center (which are both tax-deductible nonprofit think-tanks). This often includes enthusiasm for denser ("yimby") housing construction, reforming how science funding and academia work in order to speed up scientific progress (such as advocated by New Science), increasing high-skill immigration, and having good monetary policy. All of those cause areas appear on Open Philanthropy's list of "U.S. Policy Focus Areas".
Naturally, there are many ways to advocate for the above causes -- some are more object-level (like fighting to get an individual city to improve its zoning policy), while others are more systemic (like exploring the feasibility of "Georgism", a totally different way of valuing and taxing land which might do a lot to promote efficient land use and encourage fairer, faster economic development).
One big point of hesitancy is that, while some EAs have a general affinity for these cause areas, in many areas I've never heard any particular standout charities being recommended as super-effective in the EA sense... for example, some EAs might feel that we should do monetary policy via "nominal GDP targeting" rather than inflation-rate targeting, but I've never heard anyone recommend that I donate to some specific NGDP-targeting advocacy organization.
I wish there were more places like Center for Election Science, living purely on the meta level and trying to experiment with different ways of organizing people and designing democratic institutions to produce better outcomes. Personally, I'm excited about Charter Cities Institute and the potential for new cities to experiment with new policies and institutions, ideally putting competitive pressure on existing countries to better serve their citizens. As far as I know, there aren't any big organizations devoted to advocating for adopting prediction markets in more places, or adopting quadratic public goods funding, but I think those are some of the most promising areas for really big systemic change.