I actually linked this exact article at the bottom of the post, for those more ambitious. Great minds think alike! 🙌 :D

Will this affect the 80k job board? 

Will you continue to advertise jobs in all top cause areas equally, or will the bar for jobs not related to AI safety be higher now? 

If the latter, is there space for an additional, cause-neutral job board that could feature all 80k-listed jobs and more from other cause areas? 

Sorry to hear you found this saddening and confusing :/

Just to share another perspective: To me, the post did not come across as insensitive. I found the tone clear and sober, as I'm used to from 80k content, and I appreciated the explicit mention that there might now be space for another org to cover other cause areas like bio or nuclear. 

These trade-offs are always difficult, but as any EA org, 80k should do what they consider highest expected impact overall rather than what's best for the EA community, and I'm glad they're doing that. 

Curious if you have better suggestions for forecasts to use, especially for communicating to a wider audience that's new to AI safety. 

Thanks for the transparency! This is really helpful for coordination.

For anyone interested in what 80k is deprioritizing, this comment section might be a good space to pitch other EA career support ideas and offer support. 

There might be space for an organization specifically focussed in high school graduates to help them decide whether, where and what to study. This might be the most important decision in one's life, especially for people like me who grew up on the countryside without really any intellectual role models and are open to moving abroad for their studies. 

I'm unlikely to prioritize this any time soon, but if anyone else wants to set something up, I might be able to advice and maybe help fundraise, support etc, just message or email me (contact on linktr.ee/manuelallgaier)

PS: If you can share, I'd be curious to hear where this new retreat center will be located and when it will open. I imagine quite a few readers here might be curious about Tantra as well. Is there a way to sign up to be notified when you guys launch? 

No worries if you cannot or don't want to share more yet. 

Well done, congrats to you for unlocking so much additional funding for effective charities and to the other stakeholders for being open to new ideas. 

For anyone else trying to bridge world views, I'd like to add that it might be easier to pitch an EA-adjacent project first. GiveWell, GWWC or Founders Pledge (for entrepreneurs) is easier to pitch than EA, and for non-English speakers effective charity fundraisers such as Effektiv Spenden (German) might be easier to pitch.

Re "expected value", I agree that it might sound less antagonistic / arrogant, but even fewer people would have any idea what this is about, and while it may appeal to some (nerdy) people more, I think more people would find it less appealing. Open to be convinced otherwise. 

FYI: There has been extensive discussion on renaming EA before, quite a few people don't think the current name is ideal, but no-one else found a more convincing name either, so at this point it seems very unlikely to me that EA will be renamed.

Depends, if x-risk is small (<5%) and if we expect outsized impact on the future (preventing negative value lock-ins), then the latter seems more important. I'm very unsure about both.