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What do EAs think about the Twitter acquisition?
Peter_Layman1y-2
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What about SBF, he gave away 1% of his wealth before he lost it all

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the-diogenes-of-ea
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Yes, bribing celebrities to convince poor people to put their money into shitcoins is not altriusm. I hope he is sued and every penny is returned to those who fell for this. The EA community is going to need to have a moral reckoning over how the movement was hijacked by a conman. 
Lizka1yModerator Comment14
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Peter Layman has violated Forum norms in a variety of ways since joining. We are banning Peter for a month with a warning; if their engagement with the Forum continues to violate norms after the ban, we will ban them for a longer period of time. 

Here’s a list of some norm violations (this list might not be exhaustive):

  • This recent comment violates Forum norms: "Ripping off all those innocent Ponzi scheme victims was totally worth it for the future trillions of people SBF will be able to pay for... I'm sorry, I'm hearing that he's lost his ent
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the-diogenes-of-ea
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relevantfiction
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I would advise that you judge them by what they actually do,  not what they say they will do.
What do EAs think about the Twitter acquisition?
Peter_Layman1y1
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How much is the stock worth now? I guess you mean he could do an IPO and increase his wealth by earning a return on his $44B investment, and then use THAT money to further the cause of humanity? 

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What do EAs think about the Twitter acquisition?
Peter_Layman1y1
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He's endorsed MacAskill and communicated with him on this very topic. He's pledged half of his wealth toward bettering humanity on Earth, and half of it to furthering humanity on Mars. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/08/business/effective-altruism-elon-musk.html
https://www.inc.com/kelly-main/elon-musk-philosophy-optimism-longtermism.html 
And he spoke at the Effective Altruism Global conference. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-google-effective-altruism_n_55a56626e4b04740a3de3130

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What do EAs think about the Twitter acquisition?
Peter_Layman1y3
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OK how does that ensure the protection of humanity in the future as Musk has stated his sole aim for the use of his wealth to be

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relevantfiction
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It doesn't. I don't think he's honest about his intentions for his money.
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Peter_Layman
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He's endorsed MacAskill and communicated with him on this very topic. He's pledged half of his wealth toward bettering humanity on Earth, and half of it to furthering humanity on Mars. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/08/business/effective-altruism-elon-musk.html https://www.inc.com/kelly-main/elon-musk-philosophy-optimism-longtermism.html  And he spoke at the Effective Altruism Global conference. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/elon-musk-google-effective-altruism_n_55a56626e4b04740a3de3130
Will Bradshaw1y24
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This doesn't read much like an actual question, as opposed to a succession of hostile statements couched as pseudo-questions. "When did you stop beating your wife?" etc.

(Also, I wouldn't describe Musk as an EA -- I'm not aware of him ever publicly identifying as such -- so I don't think EAs / "the EA community" have any special duty to publicly opine about this.)

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"Defective Altruism" by Nathan J. Robinson in Current Affairs
Peter_Layman2y8
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Thanks,  I had missed it. The search here doesn't sort by date.

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Peter_Layman's Quick takes
Peter_Layman2y7
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Is this community open to debate on the merits of its founding principles? I'm not getting that impression. Where would you recommend to look for a critical discussion of these ideas?

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Evan_Gaensbauer
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Yes, it's open to debate on the merits of its founding principles. I'm willing to have a debate, discussion, conversation, whatever, here, in private over a video call or email, or whatever you might prefer. 
Thomas Kwa2y23
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Phil Torres is held in particularly low esteem by people on the EA Forum for what I think are good reasons: his arguments are often flimsy and on top of that he has made various unfounded accusations. But criticism of EA in general is one of the more popular tags and has some really good material from people internal and external to the EA community who have careful arguments-- here are some I recommend:

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