Sorry for the delay, yep sure! Here's the link: https://join.slack.com/t/join-asap/shared_invite/zt-1kkzoa53n-ImLZZpiM9L2uoV_bH7Oh2A
and I'll also update it in the post.
Thanks! Will fix now. I really should set a repeating reminder for myself lol
Yep thanks for mentioning this, it did come up in the discussion on the Slack group and definitely updated me towards Discord. The vote for whether we should use Slack or Discord did end up going in favour of Slack by a margin of 14 votes to 6, so we'll be sticking with Slack for now, but we might revisit the issue in the future if there's good reason to (e.g. the 90 day history thing proves a significant inconvenience).
Thanks for commenting! Yep the link seems to have expired, this one should work (and the post is now updated).
Thanks for commenting! Yep the link seems to have expired, this one should work (and the post is now updated).
I'll copy in my response from EA Groups Slack:
Yeah I'm aware that there are arguments against Slack on these kinds of bases. From my perspective, Discord has 2 main annoyances: (1) worse formatting options in messages (e.g. no links in text) and more importantly (2) no reply threads, which can make messages really cluttered. I've mentioned in the slack already that I'd be willing to cover costs if it comes to that
I'd be open to changing my mind on these points though, if I found that Discord had those features or close alternatives
Ah thanks, that looks awesome! Will definitely suggest this in the group
Thanks for the comment! I first want to register strong agreement with many of your points, e.g. the root of the problem isn't necessarily technology inherently, but rather our inability to do things like coordinate well and think in a long-term way. I also think that focusing too much on individual risks while avoiding the larger picture is a failure mode that some in the community fall into, and Ord's book might have done well to spend some time taking this perspective (he does talk about risk factors which is part of the way to a more systemic perspective, but he doesn't really address the fundamental drivers of many of these risks, which I agree seems like a missed opportunity).
That being said, I think I have a few main disagreements here:
Yep, Excalidraw is great! I also used it to make this post:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/TvrfY4c9eaGLeyDkE/induction-heads-illustrated