The NY times did an interview with SBF yesterday that "stretched past midnight". 

Here are some quotes from the article: 

“Had I been a bit more concentrated on what I was doing, I would have been able to be more thorough,” he said. “That would have allowed me to catch what was going on on the risk side.”

Mr. Bankman-Fried, who is based in the Bahamas, declined to comment on his current location, citing safety concerns. Lawyers for FTX and Mr. Bankman-Fried did not respond to requests for comment.

"Meanwhile, at a meeting with Alameda employees on Wednesday, Ms. Ellison explained what had caused the collapse, according to a person familiar with the matter. Her voice shaking, she apologized, saying she had let the group down. Over recent months, she said, Alameda had taken out loans and used the money to make venture capital investments, among other expenditures.

Around the time the crypto market crashed this spring, Ms. Ellison explained, lenders moved to recall those loans, the person familiar with the meeting said. But the funds that Alameda had spent were no longer easily available, so the company used FTX customer funds to make the payments. Besides her and Mr. Bankman-Fried, she said, two other people knew about the arrangement: Mr. Singh and Mr. Wang."

I "gifted" this article here, but if it doesn't work for some reason, I can post it again in the comments. 

Edited to add an extra quote 

59

0
0

Reactions

0
0
Comments23
Sorted by Click to highlight new comments since: Today at 3:34 AM
TheoC
1y42
27
0

I think Sam comes across very poorly here, even given the situation. I’m not sure who benefitted from him giving this interview. The ‘cryptic tweets’ make it seem like he’s treating the whole situation like some kind of joke, and the focus seems to be on his and FTX’s failures rather than the  creditors who have been wronged. Quoting the article:


"Shortly before the interview, Mr. Bankman-Fried had posted a cryptic tweet: the word “What.” Then he had tweeted the letter H. Asked to explain, Mr. Bankman-Fried said he planned to post the letter A and then the letter P. “It’s going to be more than one word,” he said. “I’m making it up as I go.”

So he was planning a series of cryptic tweets? “Something like that.”

But why? “I don’t know,” he said. “I’m improvising. I think it’s time.”"

Yes, that's exactly how I feel too. It seems like he doesn't grasp the magnitude of this, and thinks he can come back from it. The jokes just make it seem like he doesn't have compassion for the number of people who were effected by this. I was disappointed, but I guess I shouldn't have been expecting much. 

[anonymous]1y8
3
0

Maybe not expecting much, but certainly expecting more than this!

Not only did he ignore those effected, but he demeaned them. “It could be worse” appears he’s looking on the bright side of having lost billions worth of customer money, billions in potential giving had been maintained his station/profits over time, all while setting back EA considerably in the public eye.

Could it be worse?

[anonymous]1y3
0
0

Note that he is now also attempting to obstruct justice; see https://twitter.com/AutismCapital/status/1592343051523198977 , and compare to what he said in the NYT article.

If he had just lost his coin flip, and then accepted the consequences of that loss, that would be one thing.  But no.

EDIT: suspending judgment after https://twitter.com/ercwl/status/1592378315431550977 .

[anonymous]1y8
3
0

That account > NYT

Strong agree

[anonymous]1y5
3
1

https://twitter.com/AutismCapital/status/1592343051523198977

Get the word out.  To everyone.

Before I saw this, I was still open to a redemption arc for SBF, if he was willing to accept the legal consequences for what he did.

But after?  There is no longer any reasonable doubt that, whatever he was before, he is an unlawful oathbreaker now.

EDIT: suspending judgment after https://twitter.com/ercwl/status/1592378315431550977 .

I agree - I sympathise with the people who lost the money, and I can see them being furious after reading this article. People have different methods of dealing with stress, some binge eats, and some play video games. Still, I think we as a community need to be more compassionate towards SBF and provide him with the legal right to be treated as innocent until proven guilty. 

How can we provide him with that legal right? We're not a court. Are you suggesting we withhold moral judgement until a court provides one? Besides being far too high an epistemic bar for judging people's actions, that will probably be years away, at which point EA's reputation would (rightly) have withered away.

[anonymous]1y-7
6
9

I can't believe he is taking to the media and on Twitter. His criminal defense lawyer -- assuming he is wise enough to have one -- is probably in the ER right now having a hypertensive emergency.

"Meanwhile, at a meeting with Alameda employees on Wednesday, Ms. Ellison explained what had caused the collapse, according to a person familiar with the matter. Her voice shaking, she apologized, saying she had let the group down. Over recent months, she said, Alameda had taken out loans and used the money to make venture capital investments, among other expenditures.

Around the time the crypto market crashed this spring, Ms. Ellison explained, lenders moved to recall those loans, the person familiar with the meeting said. But the funds that Alameda had spent were no longer easily available, so the company used FTX customer funds to make the payments. Besides her and Mr. Bankman-Fried, she said, two other people knew about the arrangement: Mr. Singh and Mr. Wang."

Yikes.

As an outside observer I appreciate getting this insight, but boy oh boy I would have told her to not say it if I was her lawyer.

I'll add this to the post :) 

Apparently the video game 'Storybook Brawl' that Sam mentions in the article is a game he owns.  This is sort of off topic, but still interesting. 

[anonymous]1y4
1
0

I find his risk quote most concerning. I don’t really even get it to be honest.

How on one hand can you bet big on upside, and on the other not be concentrated enough on what you’re doing to see what’s going on with risk? Let alone in financial markets!

Feels like an absolute bastardization of any reasonable approach to EV wrt decision making.

Maybe this was the crux of problem… yet somehow he’s turning it into his excuse.

Curated and popular this week
Relevant opportunities