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Paul Christiano is the world’s leading AI safety researcher. My full episode with him is out!

We discuss:

  • Does he regret inventing RLHF, and is alignment necessarily dual-use?
  • Why he has relatively modest timelines (40% by 2040, 15% by 2030),
  • What do we want post-AGI world to look like (do we want to keep gods enslaved forever)?
  • Why he’s leading the push to get to labs develop responsible scaling policies, and what it would take to prevent an AI coup or bioweapon,
  • His current research into a new proof system, and how this could solve alignment by explaining model's behavior
  • and much more.

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