I don't know what SAD means, probably worth defining it early on in the post.
I don't know what SAD means, probably worth defining it early on in the post.
Good feedback, thanks. Have added a definition link to the first usage.
For reference, it's Suffering Adjusted Days, a metric that Ambitious Impact came up with to measure animal welfare interventions. It's similar to Disability Adjusted Life Years, for animals.
Do we also have a reference for what numbers are typically good in other interventions?
Thank you for this food for thought!
I was just wondering whether you took existing academic literature into account on this topic. I am aware of at least 2 related studies. One looked at the effect of vegan meal boxes and found no effect on meat consumption.Yet they only delivered one meal box with 3 meals. Another one provided just plant-based meat alternatives for a month and did find a significant drop in meat consumption at least a month after intervention end. Based on this evidence I would be more optimistic about providing free alternatives only because of it’s effectiveness identified in this one study and because this would be cheaper than providing full meals. But the evidence is not conclusive at all. But might bring additional valuable input
Just plant-based meat alternatives
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0002916522002581#:~:text=Repeated%20exposure%20to%20free%20meat,diet%20attributable%20to%20food%20production.
free vegan meal boxes
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0950329325000461
This is an excellent idea. People respond to free, and there will be some non-zero percentage of people for whom the habit of eating plant-based will stick, and possibly fully embrace the ethics of veganism.
Some feedback:
1) free food for a month is expensive and may attract people simply looking for free food
2) it may be somewhat effective or as effective to offer a discount for a month (e.g. 25% or 50%)
3) any effort should have some kind of commitment to abstain from animal food for the duration of the month
4) any effort should have some video tutorials to help people know what their options are, and how to prepare simple meals
5) any effort should also include dining at local vegan restaurants
6) any effort should also include interaction with other vegans, both for social support as well as to help with the transition
Next steps: definitely DONT drop it!
Do a pilot. Start with one household near you and self fund it if you can. Put a flyer up, and frame it as primarily a health or environmental thing. Stay in close contact with the household electronically, by phone, and in person. You'll learn so much about how it could play out and it will help you scale. If the household does not want to see the month through, go to the next household which has responded to your flyer.
Hi! I find your idea interesting, but I have one concern: how would you prevent people from abusing this system? For example, some people who are already vegan could just subscribe for some free food. You might think that ethical vegans would not commit this kind of misendeavor, but not all vegans are vegans for health reasons. I can also see that anti-vegan people could subscribe just to make the food go to waste.
TL;DR: I've analysed temporarily subsidising plant-based meal kits as an animal welfare intervention. My preliminary estimate is that this averts 19 SADs/$ (90% CI: 5-49 SADs/$). I'm now looking for feedback and criticism, and suggestions on if/how to take this forward. Full doc is here. Cost-Effectiveness calculation is here.
Meta notes: The doc/spreadsheet/post took ~15hrs of effort. I wrote the doc and did the calculation. Claude did red-teaming and wrote ~all of this post (using the doc).
If people experience a month of convenient, tasty plant-based dinners, some will continue reducing meat consumption afterward. We could pay for people to receive plant-based meal kits for ~1 month. This model would remove a lot of the initial friction associated with diet change. Then, we track whether this reduces their long-term meat consumption or catalyses dietary change.
The intervention
Ideal target demographic
Recruitment
The headline number is 19 SADs/$ (90% CI: 5-49 SADs/$). This is broken down into three different scenarios. All estimates include spillover effects.
| Scenario | Trial Length | Kit Cost/Day | SADs/$ (dinner only) | SADs/$ (fully vegan) |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Optimistic | 25 days | £4.50 | 45.6 | 49.1 |
| Average | 30 days | £6.60 | 22.3 | 16.2 |
| Pessimistic | 35 days | £9.10 | 8.5 | 5.0 |
For comparison, the top potential interventions in AIM's 2025 and 2026 reports, are estimated at cost-effectivenesses of 153, 3-51, ~36-104, and ~30 SADs/$, respectively.
Key Uncertainties
Model Simplifications
Core Assumption
Practical Assumptions
I'd really appreciate feedback from anyone on this. Here's some questions that I think anyone could weigh in on:
You can leave a comment below, or comment directly on the doc or spreadsheet.
I'm pretty uncertain what (if anything) to do next. I'd appreciate thoughts, especially from those with relevant background. Some options I've considered:
Thank you for this write-up! It sounds really intriguing. The calculation is a bit beyond my area of expertise, but here are some more general reflections:
Thank you again for your work on this, and best of luck with it! I hope to be able to gift a subscription soon!
Thanks for engaging!
Somehow I didn't even realise there were fully-vegan services, thanks for pointing it out! There's definitely some good benefits to it, slight downside is that my initial scan puts them as ~1.5x base cost of Gousto, so there's a tradeoff there. I will consider this more.
The gift option might be cool even independently of this sort of trial, esp. with Christmas gift for Veganuary, as you mention.
Very good idea on the info campaign, and the further study. Would definitely require a closer collaboration with the kit service, for them to monitor which boxes are for which trial participants, this might be another point in favour of choosing a fully-vegan service.
For the final point, I've added comparisons to the 'Cost-Effectiveness Estimates' section. The midpoint of 19 SAD/$ is below these estimates, but the optimistic case of 49 SAD/$ is comparable with some of them.
Thanks, the comparisons are very helpful.
I notice that your assessments make the intervention on par with "Securing Scale-up Funding for Alternative Proteins", which passed the bar for being recommended for AIM, which is encouraging. Given the uncertainty in the estimates, there seems to be significant Information Value from trying this at a smaller scale, and seeing what the data says.
At ~£4-6K it doesn't seem impossible to find a small-grant funder supporting it. Some ideas for alternative or additional funding sources include:
Just getting in contact with these various organizations to bounce the idea would also give you an opportunity for additional feedback!
Best of luck!