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Cause prioritization

# 90

## Summary

I tried to estimate the total yearly dollars that are aligned with EA, specifically through the lens of the four cause areas, the thought being that I should direct my personal funds to whichever I feel is most underweight. Questions:

1. What do you all think would be an ideal split amongst the cause areas?
2. Do you disagree in general with the strategy of allocating my personal donations on the basis of where I expect to differ the most from the community regarding #1?
3. Do you feel that the numbers I'm using are misrepresentative? I will do my best to address limitations below.

# 90

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Thanks for writing this post and for the great graphs!

One relevant thought regarding OpenPhil, my understanding is that they could have expanded their work within each cause area but they are not giving more because they don't have opportunities that seem better than saving the money for next years (even though they want to give away the money early), or because they have self-enforced upper bounds to give opportunities to other philanthropists (so they don't donate to GiveWell more than half of what they get by donations).

[I'm sure that the previous paragraph is wrong in some details, but overall I think it paints the right picture. I'd love to be corrected, and sorry for not taking the time to verify and find supporting links]

Personally I give mostly to animal welfare, on the ground that it is comparitively neglected within the movement, and even more neglected in the larger philantropic world. Your data seems to confirm my intuition on that score.

One could say thatlong-termism is also neglected, but I am not convinced of the effectiveness of long-termist charities. (I should say I have not looked deeply into it.)

Cool post, I enjoyed seeing these numbers like this. I share your takeaway that global health seems more overrepresented than I expected.

"Do you feel that the numbers I'm using are misrepresentative?" One consideration here is whether the appropriate figures to consider are "EA funding" or "all funding." What's the case for the former? Just that you expect EA funding to be substantially more cost-effective? Maybe. But even then you'd ideally include non-EA funding with some sort of discount, e.g. each non-EA dollar is only counted as 0.5, 0.1, or 0.01 EA dollars. I appreciate also that EA dollars are easier to count.

I was thinking along very similar lines with 'Limitations' #1. It would be much better to model this as a contribution function in four dimensions, rather than only counting 'EA dollars'.

Not only would this require more data, but one would need to assign a multiplier to each separate intervention à la GiveWell moral weights. What fraction of a 'Global Health' dollar is counted when Bill Gates funds vaccine research? Could be interesting for future work.

Another would be to add up the budgets of all EA and EA-recommended organizations (or EA-recommended programs).

Do you feel that the numbers I'm using are misrepresentative? I will do my best to address limitations below.

You might be able to use donation data from the EA Survey, to better capture individual EA giving.

One issue is that a lot of these areas have very large individual donors that aren't captured by these statistics or even in the EA Survey - for example, there is an individual donor who gives about the same annual amount to animal welfare as all of OpenPhil. (But then of course, there is also the question of who counts as "EA".)

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Do you disagree in general with the strategy of allocating my personal donations on the basis of where I expect to differ the most from the community regarding #1?

I imagine your personal views about the difference in the value of cause areas will dominate this, given that causes might be 10x different whereas these gaps are only 5x at most.

Also I think the choice of what you are funding within each cause also matters a lot.

I think this approach makes sense from a neglectedness standpoint, though I am worried that it wouldn't account for neglectedness outside of EA and neglectedness within cause. I'm not sure if this makes sense from a donor collaboration/coordination/cooperation standpoint, given that it seems like you are deliberately offsetting other people's donations.

Thanks for the reply, definitely gives me a lot to consider.

"Cause area" is also a pretty weird/arbitrary unit of analysis

Personally, I quite like the cause area distinction. One alternate definition I might propose is that a cause area is a subset of interventions which are plausibly cross-comparable. Direct comparisons across these cause areas are flimsy at best, and even if I felt strongly that one of them was the most effective, I would still value each of the others receiving non-trivial funding for the purposes of (a) hedging (b) worldview diversification.

Also I think the choice of what you are funding within each cause also matters a lot.

It certainly does, but so long as I donate via EA Funds or GiveWell, that decision is passed along to the very most qualified people I know of.

I'm not sure if this makes sense from a donor collaboration/coordination/cooperation standpoint

I might disagree here. Using base rate funding to inform decisions is no different than 'neglectedness' as a pillar of EA—If I had to be truly agnostic I suppose I'd give money to climate change, or purchasing COVID vaccines.

That 80k article is very cool, though they also seem to agree: "If the community is unresponsive to what you do, you can (mostly) take a single-player approach to working out the best action."

a lot of these areas have very large individual donors that aren't captured

It would be great to know more about these donors, and specifically which orgs they donate to. It's starting to feel like a satisfactory measure of 'fundedness' would require a lot more future work.

I imagine your personal views about the difference in the value of cause areas will dominate this, given that causes might be 10x different whereas these gaps are only 5x at most.

The size of the gaps are dependent on my personal views, so I think we're in agreement here.