I start caring about animal welfare at the age of 12. Nearly a decade later, I discovered effective altruism and decided to start down an earning to give career path as a physician and bootstrapped my own telehealth company. Once I started trying to decide where to donate, I was quite shocked by the limitations of the existing organizations and communities in the EA/Animal space and switched into doing meta-work through co-founding Hive and later increasing my moral circle to include all kinds of nonhumans including artificial minds and founding Sentient Futures (formerly AI for Animals).
Specifically about AI in farming, I talk about that a bit in this presentation about the tradeoffs between efficiency, welfare, and the middle ground of health. Also I compare 2 different scenarios where it is either the pro-animal people or the industry that gets the first mover advantage and how those might play out.
Hi Siobhan! Great question and I'm genuinely glad you raised it. I'm the Exec Director of Sentient Futures which is trying to build out the AIxAnimals field and your confusion probably represents a failure on our part to properly communicate our ideas and the field's progress. I can mostly speak to why we as an org have decided not to work directly on AI applications or cultivated meat.
A couple (non exhaustive) points:
This is what I have for now. I am not sure if that is a satisfying answer for you because it is just such a nascent field and we are trying to figure it out as we go, but I really appreciate you raising it.
Thank you for this writeup! Coincidentally, I also did a recent announcement about a gap of people pushing forward on nonhuman welfare risk reduction through the EU AI Act Code of Practice.
Hey Ariel! Just to give you a quick update, AI for Animals is rebranding to Sentient Futures to better reflect our overall goal of making the future go well for all sentient beings and avoid committing ourselves to a specific theory of change.
Also, we are running a wargame to figure out how different interventions might end up playing out for animals in the context of AGI. That will give us some insight into what strategies could be promising. In the meantime, we are fairly certain that capacity building (growing a collaborative movement, refining ideas, creating networks with dense talent, and nurturing stakeholder relationships) to be able to adopt/test a promising intervention quickly is a fairly good bet.
It depends on what you find yourself wanting to do more... it definitely helps to come into a network trying to do something specific so that you can get a "lay of the land" and know who/what is helpful or not. Knowing how resources pan out for you is useful for knowing how they would pan out for others.
I'm not entirely certain that this is the case. There is always a tradeoff on what you choose to spend your time on. We aren't trying to convince the public or even other EAs or animal advocates as our main ToC. We are trying to grow more fertile ground for the people who are already interested and convinced to be able to have the connections, knowledge, and resources they need in order to pursue their own interventions. A lot of our comms happens inside our Slack community (which is intentionally high friction to join) and even then, most of it is in private channels. Here are the Slack stats from the last month: 9,388 Messages from members, 4%In public channels, 32% In private channels, 64% In direct messages.
And it seems like there are already some external communication pieces coming out from groups like Animal Ethics (see this short documentary) for animal advocates and @Max Taylor is writing a book for the public.
We are pretty heads down on the operations of field building, which is much more manageable with a smaller, niche audience to start off with. Even then, we have more inbound interest than we can handle (we were only able to accept ~100/300 applicants to our fall AIxAnimals course and then had to work pretty hard to expand that to ~200/300 for this spring). I've experienced the mistake too many times where I've tried to advertise more widely or engage with people that have lower context on what I'm working on and it is really time consuming and has less leverage than say putting on a well organized conference (see this retro) that pulls in people who already have high context and then get ideas and connections to do things like the documentary or the book I mentioned above.
It may not seem obvious that this is a good field building technique, but I think focusing in on an existing core community rather than external communications is much higher leverage given the current capacity constraints we have. It's like making sure the grass is mature before you invite a bunch of people to come play in your park.
You and other folks are very welcome to come to our project incubator showcase next week! For 8 weeks, ~40 groups of mentors and mentees have been working on projects to push the frontier of tech and nonhuman welfare. It is a totally new program so it has taken up a lot of our time.
Then we are rolling right into our 6th conference and our 1st in-person residency program.
I think when inbounds start to dry up, that would be a signal we need to focus more on external comms, but right now it seems like there are others that are happy to take on that job and there is a lot of active work being done to narrow in on AIxAnimals interventions, making any official comms about reasoning that we put out at risk of getting stale pretty fast. That's a big part of why the website sounds so generic.
That said, once things calm down and we have stable, repeating programs, I do think our website copy could use some refreshing.
Are there any other win-win situations have been found and packaged so far, beyond the EU AI Act?
Nothing as concrete. Just other things that build the field like people having counterfactual value or having a bunch of conversations, some of which change people's minds. Another potential policy thing (which other EA's seem to hate because they think it is low impact and not very counterfactual) is trying to make sure animals are included in safety regulations for self driving vehicles.