Greg_Colbourn

Founder of CEEALAR (née the EA Hotel; ceealar.org)

Greg_Colbourn's Comments

Why I'm Not Vegan

I'm thinking that for me it would be something like 1/100 of a year! Maybe 1/10 tops. And for those such as the OP who think that "there's just no one inside to suffer" - would you risk making such a swap (with a high multiple) if it was somehow magically offered to you?

Why I'm Not Vegan

Pretty grim thought experiment - but I wonder: what amount of living as a chicken, or pig, on a factory farm would people trade for a year of extra healthy (human) life?

Assume that you would have the consciousness of the chicken or pig during the experience (memories of your previous life would be limited to the extent to what a chicken or pig could comprehend), and that you would have some kind of memory of the experience after (although these would be zero if chickens and pigs aren't sentient). Also assume that you wouldn't lose any time in your real life (say it was run as a very fast simulation, but you subjectively still experienced the time you specified).

Edit: there's another thought experiment along the same lines in MichaelStJules' comment here.

Halffull's Shortform

Maybe also that the talk of preventing a depression is an information hazard when we are at the stage of the pandemic where all-out lockdown is the biggest priority for most of the richest countries. In a few weeks when the epidemics in the US and Western Europe are under control, and lockdown can be eased with massive testing, tracing and isolating of cases, then it would make more sense to freely talk about boosting the economy again (in the mean time, we should be calling for governments to take up the slack with stimulus packages. Which they seem to be doing already).

Illegible impact is still impact
I don't know that this is still or ever really was part of the mission of the EA Hotel (now CEEALAR), but one of the things I really appreciated about it from my fortnight stay there was that it provided a space for EA-aligned folks to work on things without the pressure to produce legible results. This to me seems extremely valuable because I believe many types of impact are quantized such that no impact is legible until a lot of things fall into place and you get a "windfall" of impact all at once

Yes, this was a significant consideration in my founding of the project. We also acknowledge it where we have collated outputs. And whilst we have had a good amount of support (see histogram here), I feel that many potential supporters have been holding back, waiting for the windfall (we have struggled with a short runway over the last year).

Concerning the Recent 2019-Novel Coronavirus Outbreak

Makes sense from the point of view of killing germs, and temperatures being tolerable for us also being tolerable for germs. My intuition is that it's easier to get dirt (which contains germs) off hands with warmer water (similar to how it's easier to wash dishes with warmer water).

Concerning the Recent 2019-Novel Coronavirus Outbreak

Alcohol-based hand sanitiser is also good. Often better than hand washing in practice as very few people actually wait for the water to get warm, or spend 20 seconds lathering the soap.

The EA Hotel is now the Centre for Enabling EA Learning & Research (CEEALAR)
Props for putting in the work to keep this organization alive and well. It's a wonderful asset to the EA community. :)

Thanks!

CEALAR

I agree that the extra E is a bit jarring at first (someone else has pointed this out too). I worry that without it it's too similar to CEA though; and the "Enabling" also seems useful in helping to describe what we do.

The EA Hotel is now the Centre for Enabling EA Learning & Research (CEEALAR)

Interesting - you mean this? Worth considering for an alternative name/brand [Jonas' comment above] down the line a bit.

The EA Hotel is now the Centre for Enabling EA Learning & Research (CEEALAR)
Congratulations for putting in all the time and effort required to get the (former) EA Hotel registered as a proper charity!

Thanks!

poll on an EA Facebook group

We did do this for the initial naming. It seems like a very lengthly process though, looking at the example of FRI. I'll also note that the names that got to the top of the latest poll I've seen (from 14 Dec) don't seem that great (but then my judgement perhaps isn't the best in this area, given the reception so far to "CEEALAR"!)

The EA Hotel is now the Centre for Enabling EA Learning & Research (CEEALAR)

Note we are still offering the same as before, with the caveat that we aren't subsidising people earning-to-give (as was originally envisaged with the EA Hotel). We are still open to short-term visitors.

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