What do you think is the risk of a "near miss" in AI alignment? From a suffering-focused perspective, Brian Tomasik has argued that a slightly misaligned AI has the potential to cause far more suffering compared to a totally unaligned AI.

What do you think is the risk of a "near miss" in AI alignment? From a suffering-focused perspective, Brian Tomasik has argued that a slightly misaligned AI has the potential to cause far more suffering compared to a totally unaligned AI.

This seems very useful to me. I've read books by Russel, Christiansen, and Bostrom, plus a load of other misc EA content (EA Forum, EAG, 80k, etc) about AI Alignment but wouldn't have been able to distinguish these separate strands. So for me at least, this seems like very helpful de-confusion.
A couple of questions, if you've got time:
1 In your ~30 conversations with and feedback from others, did you get much of a sense that others disagreed with your general categorisations here? That is, I'm sure that there are various ways that one could conceptually carve up the space, but did you get much feedback suggesting that yours might be wrong in some substantial way? I'm trying to get a sense if this post represents a reasonable but controversial interpretation of the landscape or if it would be widely accepted.
2 You helpfully list some existing resources for each approach. Do you have a sense of roughly how resources (e.g. number of researchers / research hours; philanthropic $s) are currently divided between these different approaches?
(3) (I'd also be interested in how you or others would see the ideal distribution of resources, but I infer from your post that there might be a lot of disagreement about that.)
Thanks for the feedback! Really glad to hear it was helpful de-confusion for people who've already engaged somewhat with AI Alignment, but aren't actively researching in the field, that's part of what I was aiming for.
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I didn't get much feedback on my categorisation, I was mostly trying to absorb other people's inside views on their specific strand of alignment. And most of the feedback on the doc was more object-level discussion of each section. I didn't get feedback suggesting this was wrong in some substantial way, but I'd also expect it to be considered 'reasonable but controversial' rather than widely accepted.
If it helps, I'm most uncertain about the following parts of this conceptualisation:
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It's hard to be precise, but there's definitely not an even distribution. And it depends a lot on which resources you care about.
A lot of the safety work at industry labs revolves around trying to align large language models, mostly with tools like reinforcement learning from human feedback. I mostly categorise this under you get what you measure, though I'm open to pushback there. This is very resource intensive, especially if you include the costs of training those large language models in the first place, and consumes a lot of capital, engineer time, and researcher time. Though much of the money comes from companies like Google, rather than philanthropic sources.
The other large collections of researchers are at MIRI, who mostly do deconfusion work, and CHAI, who do a lot of things, including a bunch of good field-building, but probably the modal type of work is on training AIs with assistance games? This is more speculative though.
Most of the remaining areas are fairly small, though these are definitely not clear-cut distinctions.
It's unclear which of these resources are most important to track - training large models is very capital intensive, and doing anything with them is fairly labour intensive and needs good engineers. But as eg OpenPhil's recent RFPs show, there's a lot of philanthropic dollars available for researchers who have a credible case for being able to do good alignment research, suggesting we're more bottlenecked by researcher time? And there we're much more bottlenecked by senior researcher time than junior researcher time.
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Very hard to say, sorry! Personally, I'm most excited about inner alignment and interpretability and really want to see those having more resources. Generally, I'd also want to see a more even distribution of resources for exploration, diversification and value of information reasons. I expect different people would give wildly varying opinions.
My odd angle on your Key Considerations:
- Prosaic AGI: Considering Geoff Hinton's GLOM, and implementations of equivariant capsules (which recently generalized to out-of-distribution grasps after only ten demonstrations!) as well as Sparse Representations of Numenta, the Mixture of Experts models which Jeff Dean seems to support in Google's Pathways speech... it DOES seem like all the important components for a sort of general intelligence are in place. We even have networks extracting symbolic logic and constraints from a few examples. The barriers to composability, analogy, and equivariance don't seem to be that high, and once those are managed I don't see many other hinderances to AGI.
- Sharpness: Improvements in neural networks took years, from the effort of thousands of the best brains; we're likely to have a SLOW take-off, unless the first AGI is magically thousands of times faster than us, too. (If so, why didn't we build a real-time AGI when we had 1/1,000th the processing power?) And, each new improvement is likely to be more difficult to achieve than the last, to such an extent that AGI will hit a maximum - some "best algorithm". That limit to algorithms necessitates a slowing rate of improvement, and we're likely to already be close to that peak. (Narrow AI has already seen multiple 100x and 1,000x gains in performance characteristics, and that can't go on forever.)
- Timeline: With the next round of AI-specialized chips due 2022 (Cerebras has a single chip the size of thousands of normal chips, with memory imbedded throughout to avoid the von Neumann Bottleneck) we'll see a 100x boost to energy-efficiency, which was the real barrier to human-scale AI. Given that the latest AIs are ~1% of a human brain, then a 100x boost puts AI within striking-distance of humans, this next year! I expect AGI to be achievable within 5 years... just look at where neural networks were five years ago.
- Hardness: I suspect that AGI alignment will be forever hard. Like an alien intelligence, I don't see how we can ever really trust it. Yet, I also suspect that narrow super-intelligences will provide us with MOST of the utility that could have been gained from AGI, and those narrow AIs will give us those gains earlier, cheaper, with greater explainability and safety. I would be happy banning AGI until narrow AI is tapped-out and we've had a sober conversation about the remaining benefits of AGI. If narrow AI turns-out to do almost everything we needed, then we can ban AGI without risk or loss. We won't know if we really even need AGI, until we see the limits of narrow AI - and we are nowhere near those limits, yet!
Thanks for the heads up about Hinton's GLOM, Numenta's Sparse Representations and Google's Pathways. The latter in particular seems especially worrying, given Google's resources.
I don't think your arguments regarding Sharpness and Hardness are particularly reassuring though. If an AGI can be made that runs at "real time", what's to stop someone throwing 10, 100, 1000x more compute at it to make it run correspondingly faster? Will they really have spent all the money they have at their disposal on the first prototype? And even if they did, others with more money could quickly up the ante. (And then obviously once the AGI is running much faster than a human, it can be applied to making itself smarter/faster still, etc -> FOOM)
And as for banning AGI - if only this were as easily done as said. How exactly would we go about banning AGI? Especially in such a way that Narrow AI was allowed to continue (so e.g. banning large GPU/TPU clusters wouldn't be an option)?
Oh, my apologies for not linking to GLOM and such! Hinton's work toward equivariance is particularly interesting because it allows an object to be recognized under myriad permutations and configurations; the recent use of his style of NN in "Neural Descriptor Fields" is promising - their robot learns to grasp from only ten examples, AND it can grasp even when pose is well-outside the training data - it generalizes!
I strongly suspect that we are already seeing the "FOOM," entirely powered by narrow AI. AGI isn't really a pre-requisite to self-improvement: Google used a narrow AI to lay their chips' architecture, for AI-specialized hardware. My hunch is that these narrow AI will be plenty, yet progress will still lurch. Each new improvement is a harder-fought victory, for a diminishing return. Algorithms can't become infinitely better, yet AI has already made 1,000x leaps in various problem-sets ... so I don't expect many more such leaps, ahead.
And, in regards to '100x faster brain'... Suppose that an AGI we'd find useful starts at 100 trillion synapses, and for simplicity, we'll call that the 'processing speed' if we run a brain in real-time. "100 trillion synapses-seconds per second" So, if we wanted a brain which was equally competent, yet also running 100x faster, then we would need 100x the computing power, running in parallel to speed operations. That would be 100x more expensive, and if you posit that you had such power on-hand today, then there must have been an earlier date when the amount of compute was only "100 trillion synapses-seconds per second", enough for a real-time brain, only. You can't jump past that earlier date, when only a real-time brain was feasible. You wouldn't wait until you had 100x compute; your first AGI will be real-time, if not slower. GPT-3 and Dall-E are not 'instantaneous', with inference requiring many seconds. So, I expect the same from the first AGI.
More importantly, to that concept of "faster AGI is worth it" - an AGI that requires 100x more brain than a narrow AI (running at the same speed regardless of what that is) would need to be more than 100x as valuable. I doubt that is what we will find; the AGI won't have magical super-insight compared to narrow AI given the same total compute. And, you could have an AGI that is 1/10th the size, in order to run it 10x faster, but that's unlikely to be useful anywhere except a smartphone. For any given quantity of compute, you'd prefer the half-second-response super-sized brain over the micro-second-response chimp brain. At each of those quantities of compute, you'll be able to run multiple narrow AIs at similar levels of performance to the singular AGI, so those narrow AIs are probably worth more.
As for banning AGI - I have no clue! Hardware isn't really the problem; we're still far from tech which could cheaply supply human-brain-scale AI to the nefarious individual. It'd really be nations doing AGI. I only see some stiff sanctions and inspections-type stuff, a la nuclear, as ever really happening. Deployment would be difficult to verify, especially if narrow AI is really good at most things such that we can't tell them apart. If nations formed a kind of "NATO-for-AGI", declaring publicly to attack any AGI? Only the existing winners would want to play on the side of reducing options for advancement like that, it seems. What do you think?
"Neural Descriptor Fields" is promising - their robot learns to grasp from only ten examples
Thanks for these links. Incredible (and scary) progress!
cheaply supply human-brain-scale AI to the nefarious individual
I think we're coming at this from different worldviews. I'm coming from much more of a Yudkowsky/Bostrom perspective, where the thing I worry about is misaligned superintelligent AGI; an existential risk by default. For a ban on AGI to be effective against this, it has to stop every single project reaching AGI. There won't be a stage that lasts any appreciable length of time (say, more than a few weeks) where there are AGIs that can be destroyed/stopped before reaching a point of no return.
then there must have been an earlier date when the amount of compute was only "100 trillion synapses-seconds per second", enough for a real-time brain, only.
Yes, but my point above was that the very first prototype isn't going to use all the compute available. Available compute is a function of money spent. So there will very likely be room to significantly speed up the first prototype AGI as soon as it's deployed. We may very well be at a point now where if all the best algorithms were combined, and $10T spent on compute, we could have something approximating an AGI. But that's unlikely to happen as there are only maybe 2 entities that can spend that amount of money (the US government and the Chinese government), and they aren't close to doing so. However, if it gets to only needing $100M in compute, then that would be within reach of many players that could quickly ramp that up to $1B or $10B.
Each new improvement is a harder-fought victory, for a diminishing return.
Do you think this is true even in the limit of AGI designing AGI? Do you think human level is close to the maximum possible level of intelligence? When I mentioned "FOOM" I meant it in the classic Yudkowskian fast takeoff to superintelligence sense.
Oh, and my apologies for letting questions dangle - I think human intelligence is very limited, in the sense that it is built hyper-redundant against injuries, and so its architecture must be much larger in order to achieve the same task. The latest upgrade to language models, DeepMind's RETRO architecture achieves the same performance as GPT-3 (which is to say, it can write convincing poetry) while using only 1/25th the network. GPT-3 was only 1% of a human brain's connectivity, so RETRO is literally 1/2,500th of a human brain, with human-level performance. I think narrow super-intelligences will dominate, being more efficient than AGI or us.
In regards to overall algorithmic efficiency - in only five years we've seen multiple improvements to training and architecture, where what once took a million examples needs ten, or even generalizes to unseen data. Meanwhile, the Lottery Ticket can make a network 10x smaller, while boosting performance. There was even a supercomputer simulation which neural networks sped 2 BILLION-fold... which is insane. I expect more jumps in the math ahead, but I don't think we have many of those leaps left before our intelligence-algorithms are just "as good as it gets". Do you see a FOOM-event capable of 10x, 100x, or larger gains left to be found? I would bet there is a 100x is waiting, but it might become tricky and take successively more resources, asymptotic...
I think AGI would easily be capable of FOOM-ing 100x+ across the board. And as for AGI being developed, it seems like we are getting ever closer with each new breakthrough in ML (and there doesn't seem to be anything fundamentally required that can be said to be "decades away" with high conviction).
Thank you for diving into this with me :) We might be closer on the meat of the issues than it seems - I sit in the "alignment is exceptionally hard and worthy of consideration" camp, AND I see a nascent FOOM occurring already... yet, I point to narrow superintelligence as the likely mode for profit and success. It seems that narrow AI is already enough to improve itself. (And, the idea that this progress will be lumpy, with diminishing returns sometime soon, is merely my vague forecast informed by general trends of development.) AGI may be attainable at any point X, yet narrow superintelligences may be a better use of those same total resources.
More importantly, if narrow AI could do most of the things we want, that tilts my emphasis toward "try our best to stop AGI until we have a long, sober conversation, having seen what tasks are left undone by narrow AI." This is all predicated on my assumption that "narrow AI can self-iterate and fulfill most tasks competently, at lower risk than AGI, and with fewer resources." You could call me a "narrow-minded FOOMist"? :)
Maybe your view is closer to Eric Drexler's CAIS? That would be a good outcome, but it doesn't seem very likely to be a stable state to me, given that the narrow AIs could be used to speed AGI development. I don't think the world will coordinate around the idea of narrow AIs / CAIS being enough, without a lot of effort around getting people to recognise the dangers of AGI.
Oh, thank you for showing me his work! As far as I can tell, yes, Comprehensive AI Services seems to be what we are entering already - with GPT-3's Codex writing functioning code a decent percentage of the time, for example! And I agree that limiting AGI would be difficult; I only suppose that it wouldn't hurt us to restrict AGI, assuming that narrow AI does most tasks well. If narrow AI is comparable in performance, (given equal compute) then we wouldn't be missing-out on much, and a competitor who pursues AGI wouldn't see an overwhelming advantage. Playing it safe might be safe. :)
And, that would be my argument nudging others to avoid AGI, more than a plea founded on the risks by themselves: "Look how good narrow AI is, already - we probably wouldn't see significant increases in performance from AGI, while AGI would put everyone at risk." If AGI seems 'delicious', then it is more likely to be sought. Yet, if narrow AI is darn-good, AGI becomes less tantalizing.
And, for the FOOMing you mentioned in the other thread of replies, one source of algorithmic efficiency is a conversion to symbolic formalism that accurately models the system. Once the over-arching laws are found, modeling can be orders of magnitude faster, rapidly. [e.g. the distribution of tree-size in undisturbed forests always follows a power-law; testing a pair of points on that curve lets you accurately predict all of them!]
Yet, such a reduction to symbolic form seems to make the AI's operations much more interpretable, as well as verifiable, and those symbols observed within its neurons by us would not be spoofed. So, I also see developments toward that DNN-to-symbolic bridge as key to BOTH a narrow-AI-powered FOOM, as well as symbolic rigor and verification to protect us. Narrow AI might be used to uncover the equations we would rather rely upon?
Disclaimer: I recently started as an interpretability researcher at Anthropic, but I wrote this doc before starting, and it entirely represents my personal views not those of my employer
Intended audience: People who understand why you might think that AI Alignment is important, but want to understand what AI researchers actually do and why.
Epistemic status: My best guess.
Epistemic effort: About 70 hours into the full sequence, and feedback from over 30 people
Special thanks to Sydney von Arx and Ben Laurense for getting me to actually finish this, and to all of the many, many people who gave me feedback. This began as my capstone project in the first run of the AGI Safety Fellowship, organised by Richard Ngo and facilitated by Evan Hubinger - thanks a lot to them both!
Meta: This is a heavily abridged overview (4K words) of a longer doc (25K words) I’m writing, giving my birds-eye conceptualisation of the field of Alignment. This post should work as a standalone and accessible overview, without needing to read the full thing. I’ve been polishing and re-polishing the full doc for far too long, so I’m converting it into a sequence and I’m publishing this short summary now as an introductory post, and trying to get the rest done over Christmas. Each bolded and underlined section header is expanded into a full section in the full thing, and will be posted to the Alignment Forum. I find detailed feedback super motivating, so please let me know what you think works well and doesn’t!
Terminology note: There is a lot of disagreement bout what “intelligence”, “human-level”, “transformative” or AGI even means. For simplicity, I will use AGI as a catch-all term for ‘the kind of powerful AI that we care about’. If you find this unsatisfyingly vague, OpenPhil’s definition of Transformative AI is my favourite precise definition.
What needs to be done to make the development of AGI safe? This is the fundamental question of AI Alignment research, and there are many possible answers.
I've spent the past year trying to get into AI Alignment work, and broadly found it pretty confusing to get my head around what's going on at first. Anecdotally, this is a common experience. The best way I've found of understanding the field is by understanding the different approaches to this question. In this post, I try to write up the most common schools of thought on this question, and break down the research that goes on according to which perspective it best fits
There are already some excellent overviews of the field: I particularly like Paul Christiano’s Breakdown and Rohin Shah’s literature review and interview. The thing I’m trying to do differently here is focus on the motivations behind the work. AI Alignment work is challenging and confusing because it involves reasoning about future risks from a technology we haven’t invented yet. Different researchers have a range of views on how to motivate their work, and this results in a wide range of work, from writing papers on decision theory to training large language models to summarise text. I find it easiest to understand this range of work by framing it as different ways to answer the same fundamental question.
My goal is for this post to be a good introductory resource for people who want to understand what Alignment researchers are actually doing today. I assume familiarity with a good introductory resource, eg Superintelligence, Human Compatible or Richard Ngo’s AGI Safety from First Principles, and that readers have a sense for what the problem is and why you might care about it. I begin with an overview of the most prominent research motivations and agendas. I then dig into each approach, and the work that stems from that view. I especially focus on the different threat models for how AGI leads to existential risk, and the different agendas for actually building safe AGI. In each section, I link to my favourite examples of work in each area, and the best places to read more. Finally, as another way to understand the high-level differences in research motivations, I discuss the different underlying beliefs about how AGI will go, which I’ll refer to as crucial considerations.
I broadly see there as being 5 main types of approach to Alignment research. I break this piece into five main sections analysing each approach.
Note: The space of Alignment research is quite messy, and it's hard to find a categorisation that carves reality at the joints. As such, lots of work will fit into multiple parts of my categorisation.
Within this framework, I find the addressing threat models and agendas to build safe AGI sections the most interesting and think they contain the most diversity of views, so I expand these into several specific models and agendas.
There are a range of different concrete threat models. Within this section, I focus on three threat models that I consider most prominent, and which most current research addresses.
Note that this decomposition is entirely my personal take, and one I find useful for understanding existing research. For an alternate perspective and decomposition, see this recent survey of AI researcher threat models. They asked about five threat models (only half of which I cover here), and found that while opinions were often polarised, on average, the five models were rated as equally plausible.
There are a range of agendas proposed for how we might build safe AGI, though note that each agenda is far from a complete and concrete plan. I think of them more as a series of confusions to explore and assumptions to test, with the eventual goal of making a concrete plan. I focus on three agendas I consider most prominent - see Evan Hubinger’s Overview of 11 proposals for building safe advanced AI for more.
Rather than the careful sequence of logical thought underlying the two above categories, robustly good approaches are backed more by a deep and robust-feeling intuition. They are the cluster thinking to the earlier motivation’s sequence thinking. This means that the motivations tend to be less rigorous and harder to clearly analyse, but are less vulnerable to identifying a single weak point in a crucial underlying belief. Instead there are lots of rough arguments all pointing in the direction of the area being useful. Often multiple researchers may agree on how to push forwards on these approaches, while having wildly different motivations. I focus on the 3 key areas of interpretability, robustness and forecasting.
Note that robustly good does not mean that ‘there is no way this agenda is unhelpful’, it’s just a rough heuristic that there are lots of arguments for the approach being net good. It’s entirely possible that the downsides in fact outweigh the upsides.
(Conflict of interest: Note that I recently started work on interpretability under Chris Olah, and many of the researchers behind scaling laws are now at Anthropic. I formed the views in this section before I started work there, and they entirely represent my personal opinion not those of my employer or colleagues)
The point of this post is to help you gain traction on what different alignment researchers are doing and what they believe. Beyond focusing on research motivations, another way I’ve found valuable to get insight is to focus on key considerations - underlying beliefs about AI that often generate the high-level differences in motivation and agendas. So in the sixth and final section I focus on these. There are many possible crucial considerations, but I discuss four that seem to be the biggest generators of action-relevant disagreement:
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Regarding future posts in the sequence:
The hope is that this introduction will serve as an accessible and standalone overview of the field, and allows me to get feedback on my breakdown, while providing more urgency on publishing the full sequence. I expect to work on the full thing over Christmas, and expect to publish each section as it’s ready as a further post in a sequence on the Alignment Forum. Each section header that is bolded and underlined will be significantly expanded - I will link from here to posts in the sequence when they’re done. Note: The sequence is not linear, you can read the posts in any order, according to your interests
My main intended contribution is to break down the field of alignment into different research agendas, and to analyse the motivations and theories of change behind them, and to give a lens to analyse the field for someone new and overwhelmed by what’s going on. Please give any feedback you have on ways I do and do not succeed at this, and ways this could have been more useful to you!
You can read a draft of the full sequence here.
Thanks for writing this! Seems useful.
Questions about the overview of threat models:
*As noted here, WFLLP1 includes, as a key mechanism for bad things getting locked in: "Eventually large-scale attempts to fix the problem are themselves opposed by the collective optimization of millions of optimizers pursuing simple goals." Christiano's more recent writings on outer alignment failures also seem to emphasize deceptive/adversarial dynamics like hacking sensors, which seems pretty treacherous to me. This emphasis seems right; it seems like, by default, any kind of misalignment of sufficiently competent agents (which people are incentivized to eventually design) creates incentives for deception (followed by a treacherous turn), making "you get what you measure" / outer misalignment a subcategory of "treacherous turn."
This may be a disagreement about semantics. As I see it, my goal as an alignment researcher is to do whatever I can to reduce x-risk from powerful AI. And given my skillset, I mostly focus on how I can do this with technical research. And, if there are ways to shape technical development of AI that leads to better cooperation, and this reduces x-risk, I count that as part of the alignment landscape.
Another take is Critch's description of extending alignment to groups of systems and agents, giving the multi-multi alignment problem of ensuring alignment between groups of humans and groups of AIs who all need to coordinate. I discuss this a bit more in the next post.
You're right, this seems like mostly semantics. I'd guess it's most clear/useful to use "alignment" a little more narrowly--reserving it for concepts that actually involve aligning things (i.e. roughly consistently with non-AI-specific uses of the word "alignment"). But the Critch(/Dafoe?) take you bring up seems like a good argument for why AI-influenced coordination failures fall under that.