Is the survey data closed access? If so, would it be possible to request access? I have a few questions of my own I'd like to try answer
Some very belated updates on this project:
In case it's not obvious, we didn't end up running this. There were a couple of reasons for that:
I probably ...
Wasn't sure where else to mention this – the search feature on the forum is pretty bad. I tried finding a post from Claire Zabel by searching "Claire Zabel". I couldn't find it because her username is actually "ClaireZabel"
I had previously decided to work on EA community-building full-time, and have now mostly changed my mind. I want to write up my reasoning for this. I don't think this will be entirely relevant to general movement strategy, but I think it's worth making legible for others
the question of whether we (i.e. anyone) should be doing mass outreach on the topic of AI Safety is over. It is happening.
This feels like a very hostile statement. It's not at all obvious that this question is over.
I personally feel a lot more cautious about doing mass outreach. I think there's a decent chance people could accidentally do significant harm to future efforts. Policy, politics and advocacy are complicated - regardless of the area you're working in.
For what it's worth, I've spoken to Nik and I think some of the work he's doing is great. I'm especially excited about narrative testing.
Thank you for being open about this Max. I'm sorry to hear that it's been tough. I think this post in itself is really valuable. I imagine myself using it as a good example in the future to encourage people to prioritize their mental health.
I appreciate the work you've done to make CEA into an organisation that I really admire. I'm sure you'll do great things in the future. Best wishes!
I often use charity and thrift shops. The other day I was thinking about how it would be cool to have one that donates to GiveWell or something.
Good job on trying this!
I'm optimistic about this test. Even as a community builder, I find all the community discussion overwhelming. The Forum has become a place I'm less likely to visit because something like half of the discussions don't feel productive for me to engage in.
Flagging that I may be interested in helping run both EA Infrastructure and AI safety versions of this
This seems great. This org has ties to pretty influential people. A couple of things I'm curious about:
There are some EAs hanging out in CDMX until the end of Jan (and maybe some after)
Agree that having a nomad friendly community near the US would be great
I think this is a nice simple breakdown of the concept.
A nitpick - I think having digital graphs rather than these photos would be a big improvement
[Epistemic status: I've never done recruiting, I don't run or have a position at an 'EA org' - feel free to ignore anything I say]
But, a couple of thoughts:
I think the series Next did a pretty good job of making me scared. It's not an amazing production in itself, but worth watching.
Related thought: should we be trying harder to do outreach to early stage startup founders? Could potentially be very high-EV from a funding perspective
It's a rough estimate. I think it's difficult to quantify the value of a conference for one individual
The idea of there being increased financial barriers to attending conferences concerns me a lot.
I'd hate to end up in a situation where lower income people or students are discouraged from even applying because they know they won't be able to afford it. I know it would be soul crushing for many people to receive an email saying they've been accepted, but be unable to consider attending due to financial barriers.
I'd have a preference for smaller events where people are guaranteed funding if they need. I think that looking after a smaller group of peop...
I'd be excited about CEA hosting or supporting more virtual conferences. These are far cheaper than in-person events, are more accessible in many ways, and I'd estimate they capture about 60% of the value for an individual attendee that an in-person event does.
I could imagine 2-3 of these happening in 2023, perhaps including some for more specific audiences like the previous student summit. These would have the advantage of being able to have a much lower bar for entry (since costs don't increase as linearly as in-person conferences). They could therefore ...
I definitely agree with these points! The delay is entirely a failure on my part . This is definitely not the only event of its kind that will be run though and I anticipate another one will happen very soon after.
As an organiser, I am constantly amazed at how helpful everyone has been. Thank you to all the volunteers, speakers and attendees who have been so willing to contribute! I love this community <3
I'd also be very interested in the reverse of this. Is there anyone who has thought very hard about AI risk and decided to de-prioritise it?
Thanks for writing this Sam. I think there's a lot of value in hearing people's stories in this way
I share this concern, deeply. I think the EA community could be necessary for a lot of future impact. Risks to the community are therefore very bad.
I'm curious about the term "community health" though. Maybe there are actually two distinct categories of things to track here? One is internal - how people feel and interact within EA - and the other is external - how the general public perceives EA.
I think people are always going to seek status or validation and people in EA are no different. Status in EA has a lot of massive upsides as well (you might have greater chances of getting funding/job offers). It's highly unlikely this will change. What we should be actively monitoring is how closely we're matching status with impact.
Also, I'm not sure if the title is good or bad. I think this post points to some important things about status in EA and I wonder if the misleading title makes people less likely to read it. On the other hand, I thought it looked funny and that made me click on it.
Low and middle income countries or LMICs
This would be for EA work being done in LMICs. I anticipate some more posts in this area soon.
This could apply to posts like:
Thanks for following up. This is very interesting. I'd like to think more about what lessons from the startup world might be applicable in our case.
I don't think the dichotomy being presented here is true. We can plausibly have both of these things.
The claim that "Cape Town is not Africa" also doesn't seem very obvious to me. I can see the possible assumptions here maybe being something like "Africa must necessarily be a harsh environment to live in" or "some degree of material suffering is necessary to understand African perspectives." I don't think either of these are true.
I'm really interested in your perspective on this though. I'll reach out to discuss this further
Location: Currently living in Cape Town, but have a preference for moving to the UK
Remote: Yes
Willing to relocate: Yes (mostly)
Experience: I've done a fair bit of EA community building and am leaning towards roles in the meta-EA space. I have also done research for an EA org and communications/marketing in the for-profit and non-profit sectors.
Skills: Very people-oriented. I love leading groups and engaging in difficult conversation. I also think I write pretty well (I'll hopefully have more public evidence of this soon). I'm an unapologetic generalist wit...
One thing this post doesn't really touch on, which I would like more discussion about, is why we should establish new hubs in the first place. I think creating an EA hub that's as good as Berkeley or Oxford is actually really difficult, so we should plausibly spend a lot of time deciding whether it's worth the cost. We should weigh up the cost of new hubs with the cost of just trying to get people to move to an existing one. Sure, maybe not everyone can move to Oxford or Berkeley if they want to, but not everyone needs to live in a 'hub'.
Maybe the fl...
I think that what we currently call retreats seem diverse enough that the events might deserve entirely different names. Organisers could put more care into choosing a term, on a case-by-case basis, that accurately sets expectations. Some retreats I've heard of do appear to entail spending a few days in the countryside forming better bonds within a group. In that case, calling it a "retreat" would be reasonable.
I'm not sure what your background is, but I agree that getting in touch with local EA groups is a great place to start. We (University of Cape Town) would certainly be happy to have somebody offer help
I'll just add all mine in one comment, since I'm assuming you won't base your decision off the number of upvotes. Most of these are about movement-building, since that's probably what I spend most of my time thinking about
As someone who has studied religion at university, I've been patiently waiting for more conversations about this. I'm not religious myself, but I'm looking forward to reading about these perspectives.
Unfortunately that is true. I would say that statistic might be misleading though as it largely depends on the area you're living in. Lower income areas account for most of the total murder in Cape Town the metropolitan area. Higher income areas (in which any expat would inevitably be living) are relatively safe. Overall though, you'd be correct in assuming that safety is more of a concern than in many European or US cities. But as far as anecdotal evidence goes, I have't been murdered yet.
This an absolutely shameless plug for my own city but I really think Cape Town (South Africa) would be an ideal location.
It must be gorgeous, and definitely appealing, but isn't it in the top ten for murder rate per captita?
I think this platform is absolutely fantastic and much needed. I haven't made a donation yet, but it seems like the user experience is very smooth.
Just one note: the link on the notification "Donations to Effective Crypto may not be tax deductible where you live. We think that you shouldn't worry too much about this, but just so you know." is broken.
I'm also eager to read it. This would affect the activities of quite a few groups (mine included). I can't currently think of any good reasons why the pledge should be controversial.
Hi, I'm Jordan. Aside from my full-time studies at the moment, I do some digital marketing and copywriting. I have also worked on films and have skills in audio production. I'm keen to join the channel!
I appreciate the precision :) I'd be interested to hear how your answers might differ depending on the time allocated.
Hello forum, just checking in as the EAGxLondon team lead. A couple of things I'd like to say: