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Remember: everything has opportunity costs. So before looking at transparent things and assuming they have a positive cost / benefit, consider the fact that to be transparent the person or org didn't do something else.

For e.g. I could list on my website that my major funder is LTFF but honestly that is not in my top 30 tasks. 

Let's not justify things just because they feel good. Which is exactly the same trap EAs fall into about giving criticism!

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I think we should celebrate doing things which are better than not doing that thing, even if we don't know what the counterfactual would have been. For example:

  • When a friend donates to charity, I show appreciation, not ask him how sure he is that it was the best possible use of his money
  • When my relative gets a good grade, I congratulate her - I don't start questioning if she really prioritised studying for the right subject
  • When a server is nice to me, I thank them - I don't ask them why they're talking to me instead of serving someone else

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I don't find this convincing. It seems to me that updating that one line on your website should not take longer than e.g. writing this comment. Why would you think it has a significant tradeoff?
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There's probably 100 things that sit in the "not urgent space" when running a start up. If you open yourself to those 100 things then you don't work on the most important.  If you haven't run / worked in a small startup I don't expect this to be intuitive.
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Holly Elmore writes about the costs of criticism. One of the most salient things to me here is that criticism disincentivises transparency: people are 'punished' when they are transparent while equal transgressions by people who are not transparent 'go unpunished'.

I want to call out instances of transparency and celebrate them. Here are some instances that have stuck with me – thank you for your time spent writing these up and sharing them with the community:

What have I missed from this list?

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Rasool

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GiveWell publish a lot of information from their board meetings, including previously full audio recordings

Nathan Young

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Yudkowsky is very happy to answer difficult questions, more so than most public figures. 

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The Lightcone team are generally very transparent, answering specific internal questions

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I'd add Maternal Health Initiative is Shutting Down by Ben Williamson and Sarah Eustis-Guthrie. Their Asterisk article Why we shut down is great too.

On an individual level I appreciate things like Scott Alexander's Mistakes list, pinned at the top of his blog, on "times I was fundamentally wrong about a major part of a post and someone was able to convince me of it". I'd appreciate it if more public intellectuals did this.

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  • Adding ALLFED for their cost effectiveness analysis. I'd thought of this when writing the original post but couldn't find the discussion around transparency I remember it from, but I've now found it here.

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Remember: everything has opportunity costs. So before looking at transparent things and assuming they have a positive cost / benefit, consider the fact that to be transparent the person or org didn't do something else.

For e.g. I could list on my website that my major funder is LTFF but honestly that is not in my top 30 tasks. 

Let's not justify things just because they feel good. Which is exactly the same trap EAs fall into about giving criticism!

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I don't find this convincing. It seems to me that updating that one line on your website should not take longer than e.g. writing this comment. Why would you think it has a significant tradeoff?

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There's probably 100 things that sit in the "not urgent space" when running a start up. If you open yourself to those 100 things then you don't work on the most important.  If you haven't run / worked in a small startup I don't expect this to be intuitive.
leillustrations🔸2
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I think we should celebrate doing things which are better than not doing that thing, even if we don't know what the counterfactual would have been. For example:

  • When a friend donates to charity, I show appreciation, not ask him how sure he is that it was the best possible use of his money
  • When my relative gets a good grade, I congratulate her - I don't start questioning if she really prioritised studying for the right subject
  • When a server is nice to me, I thank them - I don't ask them why they're talking to me instead of serving someone else

I appreciate that... (read more)

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