I’d recommend donating to the American Meat Producers Association (AMPA), an organization of family farmers who have already implemented animal welfare improvements like California’s Prop 12 and are running ad campaigns against Save Our Bacon. Among EAs I know, their intervention is considered the best for this issue.
While I haven’t seen a formal cost-effectiveness analysis, I’ve heard estimates from EAs I know of AMPA’s multiple ranging between 2x and >10x as valuable as the marginal animal welfare 501(c)3. This is partially because of the urgency around Save Our Bacon, and partially because the largest EA grantmakers are legally restricted in how much they can contribute. It is completely legal for foreign nationals to donate.
For these reasons, I’ve donated $10k to AMPA, and I’m convinced it’s an especially worthy intervention for farmed animal welfare.
Is donating to stop the Save Our Bacon Act better than ACE top charities? If so, where exactly should one donate? Can and should non-Americans also give, or are there issues because of foreign interference with domestic political matters?
Epistemic status: Speculation from two decently informed advocates armed with anecdata.
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Hi Adrian!
I’d recommend donating to the American Meat Producers Association (AMPA), an organization of family farmers who have already implemented animal welfare improvements like California’s Prop 12 and are running ad campaigns against Save Our Bacon. Among EAs I know, their intervention is considered the best for this issue.
While I haven’t seen a formal cost-effectiveness analysis, I’ve heard estimates from EAs I know of AMPA’s multiple ranging between 2x and >10x as valuable as the marginal animal welfare 501(c)3. This is partially because of the urgency around Save Our Bacon, and partially because the largest EA grantmakers are legally restricted in how much they can contribute. It is completely legal for foreign nationals to donate.
For these reasons, I’ve donated $10k to AMPA, and I’m convinced it’s an especially worthy intervention for farmed animal welfare.