In nearly every discussion I've engaged in relating to the potential delay or pause in AI research, multiple people have responded with the quip: "If we don't build AGI, then China will, which is an even worse possible world". This is taken at face value and is something I've never seen seriously challenged.
This does not seem obvious to me.
Given China's semi-conductor supply chain issues, China's historical lack of cutting edge innovative technology research and the tremendous challenges powerful AI systems may pose to the governing party and their ideology, it seems highly uncertain that China will develop AGI in a world where Western orgs stopped developing improved LLMs.
I appreciate people can point to multiple countries, including ones with non-impressive historical research credentials, developing nuclear weapons independently.
Beyond this, can anyone point me to, or outline arguments in favour of the idea that China is very likely to develop AGI+, even if Western orgs cease research in this field.
I don't have a strong view on this topic but given so many people assume it to be true, I would like to further understand the arguments in support of this claim.
DMMF - I also encounter this claim very often on social media. 'If the US doesn't rush ahead towards AGI, China will, & then we lose'. It's become one of the most common objections to slowing down AI research by US companies, and is repeated ad nauseum by anti-AI-safety accelerationists.
I agree with you that it's not at all obvious that China would rush ahead with AI if the US slowed down. China's CCP leadership already seems pretty concerned with X risks and global catastrophic risks, e.g. climate change. Xi Jinping's concept of 'community of common destiny' emphasizes humanity's shared vulnerability to runaway technological developments such as space-based weapons (and AI, maybe). Chinese science fiction movies (e.g. Shanghai Fortress, The Wandering Earth), routinely depict China as saving the rest of humanity from X-risks, after other nations have failed. I think China increasingly sees itself as the wise elder trying to keep impetuous, youthful, reckless America from messing everything up for everybody.
If China was more expansionist, imperialistic, and aggressive, I'd be more concerned that they would push ahead with AI development for military applications. Yes, they want to retake Taiwan, and they will, sooner or later. But they're not showing the kind of generalized western-Pacific expansionist ambitions that Japan showed in the 1930s. As long as the US doesn't meddle too much in the 'internal affairs of China' (which they see as including Taiwan), there's little need for a military arms race involving AI.
I worry that Americans tend to think and act as if we are the only people in the world who are capable of long-term thinking, X risk reduction, or appreciation of humanity's shared fate. As if either the US dominates the world with AI, or other nations such as China will develop dangerous AI without any concern for the consequences. The evidence so far suggests that China might actually be a better steward of our global safety than the US is being, at least in the domain of AI development.
Hard disagree on the reasoning behind why China might not pursue AGI. China seems to me, after almost a decade there, no more concerned about global X-risks than any other country. Just it is quite profitable for the leadership to signal that they are. Chinese Govt. signaling that they wish for safe AGI is just a case of sour grapes - they are nowhere near deploying anything significant, so it is completely costless for them to say that they are restrained. In actuality, they spent decades trying to build up their own semiconductor industry, unsuccessfully... (read more)