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Henry Stanley 🔸

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This is wonderful – thank you so much for writing it.

Mutual dedication to one another’s ends seems like a thing commonly present in religious and ethnic communities. But it seems quite uncommon to the demographic of secular idealists, like me. Such idealists tend to form and join single-focus communities like effective altruism, which serve only a subset of our eudaemonic needs.

Agree about secular, single-purpose communities – but I'm not sure EA is quite the same.

I've found my relationships with other EAs tend to blossom to be about more than just EA; those principles provide a good set of shared values from which to build other things, like a sense of community, shared houses, group meals, playing music together and just supporting each other generally. Then again, I don't consider EA to be the core of my identity, so YMMV.

I tend to agree; better to be explicit especially as the information is public knowledge anyway.

It refers to this: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/HqKnreqC3EFF9YcEs/

Interesting that you chose not to name the org in question - I guess you wanted to focus on the meta-level principle rather than this specific case

Interesting stuff but I think this is a bit too technical/in the weeds for the average EA forum reader - and it's not super clear what the EA angle is here.

most people's coworkers aren't trying to reshape the lightcone without public consent so idk, maybe different standards should apply here

Exactly. Daniela and the senior leadership at one of the frontier AI labs are not the same as someone's random office colleague. There's a clear public interest angle here in terms of understanding the political and social affiliations of powerful and influential people - which is simply absent in the case you describe.

From an animal welfarist perspective you could even have the recipe contain a message about how making chicken soup is unethical and should not be attempted.

Oddly I used to work at Pivotal[1] - have very fond memories of the London office with its full breakfast every morning...

Has since been acquired by VMware and gradually killed, and then VMware was acquired again by Broadcom who have really really killed it

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    There's almost no mention of it online now as the brand has been killed off

You've mentioned your experience with burnout in a previous post - I wondered if you were willing to share more about that, and how it influenced your approach to EtG if at all.

Very impressive - I don't think I have the stomach (so to speak) to put myself through this kind of suffering. Thanks for doing something so selfless and unpleasant for the benefit of anonymous others ❤️

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