Lorenzo Buonanno🔸

Software Developer @ Giving What We Can
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Software Developer at Giving What We Can, trying to make giving significantly and effectively a social norm.

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https://benefficienza.it/ (spelled with two Fs) has a lot of material on effective giving in Italian, in case it's useful, although nothing on catholicism as far as I'm aware.

Some EA articles were translated here: https://altruismoefficace.it/blog 

And the EA handbook a few years ago was translated here: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/users/ea-italy (I don't know if it changed much since then)

There was also this article in the major Italian Catholic newspaper after the FTX scandals, which was not entirely negative, but still mostly skeptical.

To clarify, it was just in a Google Reviews carousel they also have on the homepage, at the bottom of the page, and it was quickly removed

But I’m not sure how fruitful it is for all of us to have a vibes-based conversation about the possible merits of this campaign.

 

I think promoting good norms and making them more "common knowledge" is one of the few ways that EA Forum conversations can maybe be useful.

As in, I think it's good that "everyone knows that everyone knows" that we should have a strong bias to be collaborative towards other projects with similar goals, and these threads can help a bit with that.

(To be clear, my sense is that FarmKind is already well aware of this and this is collaborative campaign, especially after reading their comment. I mean for the EA Forum readers community as a whole)

Edit: new comment from FarmKind

Thank you for sharing this. I'm personally very surprised to see this campaign from FarmKind after reading "With friends like these" from Lewis Bollard and "professionalization has happened, differences have been put aside to focus on higher goals and the drama overall has gone down a lot" from Joey Savoie.

I would have expected the ideal way to promote donations to animal welfare charities to be less antagonizing towards vegan-adjacent people.



@Vasco Grilo🔸 given that your name is on the https://www.forgetveganuary.com/ campaign and you're active on this forum, I'm curious what you think about this. Were you informed?

Edit: they will remove that section from the page

My understanding is that $47k is the estimated time-discounted average lifetime high-impact donations from a 10% pledger, but does not discount for the fact that many pledgers (especially the largest donors giving much more than 10%) would have donated significantly with or without a 10% pledge, so only a fraction of that is counterfactually due to the existence of the 10% pledge and pledge advocacy (whether by gwwc or by others)

Giving What We Can conservatively values the lifetime value of a 🔸 10% Pledge at $100K USD (inflation adjusted to 2024)

 

Quick note that the number on the GWWC website is about one order of magnitude lower

 

But of course these are averages, and the people you inspire could give significantly more/less, or significantly more/less counterfactually

will downvote myself for spreading false info, and wasting people's time here.

That seems excessive, it was a reasonable question. I would let other readers decide whether it should be upvoted or downvoted.

But I am surprised you didn't Google "Against Malaria Foundation Crypto" or something like that, it seems faster than asking here.

Yes this post is very much "why I donate" and definitely not "why everyone should donate".

Most people are also not atheists, much poorer ( see gwwc.org/hrai ), value their wellbeing hundreds of times more then the wellbeing of others, and don't view spending money as voting on how the global economy allocates its resources, so all other paragraphs in this post would also not apply.

In that paragraph I mention what I perceive the effect of extra spending vs extra donating to be on others because that informs why I personally donate, I could have phrased it better.

From what I can tell, most orgs I’ve checked don’t offer this option through their websites (for example, GWWC, Horizon, and AMF).

GWWC accepts crypto donations (from most countries) and stock donations (from the US) above $1,000 USD, see https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/faq/can-i-donate-cryptocurrency-stocks-or-other-appreciated-assets 

AMF accepts crypto donations: https://www.againstmalaria.com/donate_Crypto.aspx and stock donations: https://www.againstmalaria.com/donate_securities.aspx 

For others, I see that Effective Altruism DC mentions contacting them via email on https://www.effectivealtruismdc.org/contribute , I think sending a quick email can often help.

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