In response to your first question, I'm pretty concerned that artificial wombs would not be very high impact from a population perspective.
If artificial wombs were very expensive, I suspect only very wealthy people would make use of them, and it would not solve the fertility crisis.
If artificial wombs were very cheap, I suspect the average person would have barely any more children. This is because the primary drivers for the current fertility crisis seem to also motivate people to want to have less children in general.
According to Our World in Data, the primary drivers of the fertility crisis are:
- the empowerment of women — increased access to education and increased labor market participation
- declining rates of child mortality
- rising costs of bringing up children, with the decline of child labor
It seems like the first and second trend will continue for the foreseeable future, and the third trend will continue in the near-time but reverse in the long-term. Notably, the first trend has to do with women's ability to make their own decisions. It seems that, in general, if women can choose how many children to have, they usually only have two or three.
Additionally, according a recent 80,000 Hours interview (which was with a non-expert), one of the major drivers of the fertility crisis is simply that people have more interesting things to do with their time than having children. This trend also seems like it will only continue.
I also suspect that if artificial wombs were very cheap, some fanatical religious groups would have extraordinarily large amounts of offspring, which could be generally harmful to the long-term future.
On the other hand though, I suspect that if there were great widespread economic prosperity and people were no longer required to work (such as could be the case if AGI comes about), the average person may have far more children, which, from a total view of population ethics, would be very beneficial.
Hi, I really appreciate your independent thinking. I strongly suspect that the main reason people are not choosing to have more kids is because of the raising kids portion, not the pregnancy portion. At least that's my reason for not having more kids. If this (the difficulty of raising kids, rather than birthing them) is the main bottleneck for most families, then I suspect the best ways to boost fertility would be mostly policy things along the lines of:
I think it's also possible that the very best lever for increasing fertility would be to boost marriages rather than the birth rate among married couples, since there is some good evidence toward this conclusion.
On artificial wombs as a technology: I do not have any information unfortunately (other than anecdotes). I would also suggest checking outside academia if you have not done so yet. And if anyone is doing this "for pets" as a way to make progress faster before transitioning to people.
Out of personal interest, though, I am highly interested in knowing what the main bottlenecks and timelines are for artificial wombs. This is because it would contribute towards reversing species extinction, and I would inform my estimates to how far away that technology is. Please share what you learn, I would appreciate it!
In general if you are seeing an obvious lack of rigor everywhere you look, then you can greatly improve the information environment by doing your own shallow research and sharing what you find. I think this itself would be a great service. (even without doing a full delphi forecast)
Thank you so much for this thoughtful and pragmatic response. I agree with all of these points.
I had a look at Hungary's income incentives briefly and am astounded by how extreme they are. There is a non-linear reduction on your taxable income per additional child you have ($203 per per child per month for one child vs. $667 per child per month for three children).
Also, which forum do you recommend I share any research on?