The ideas of high risk, high reward projects, value in the tails, etc. are quite common EA positions now. People are usually reminded that they have a low probability of success and that they should expect to fail most of the time. However, most people I know/have heard of who started ambitious EA projects are doing quite well. Examples would be SBF, Anthropic, Alvea, and many more.
My question, therefore, is: Is the risk of failure lower than we expected, or do I just not know the failures? Do I just know the selection of people who succeeded? Is it too early to tell if a project truly succeeded? If so, what are concrete examples of EAs or EA orgs not meeting high expectations despite trying really hard? Is it possible that we just underestimate how successful someone with an EA mindset and the right support can be when they try really hard?
In 2017 I quit my job and spent a significant amount of time self studying ML, roughly following a curriculum that Dario Amodei laid out in an 80k podcast. I ran this plan past a few different people, including in an 80k career advising session, but after a year, I didn't get a job offer from any of the AI Safety orgs I'd applied to (Ought, OpenAI, maybe a couple of others) and was quite burned out and demotivated. I didn't even feel up to trying to interview for an ML focused job. Instead I went back to web development (although it was with a startup that did suggest I'd be able to do some ML work eventually, but that job ultimately wasn't a great fit, and I moved on to my current role... as a senior web dev.)
I think there are a bunch of lessons I learned from this exercise, but overall I consider it one of my failures.
yeah, in particular, maybe we're in a short timelines world and savings rates are [much??] less important. Personally, I'm stressing about savings rate less currently, both because my life has shifted in significant ways that just make things more expensive, but also because I'm taking short timelines somewhat more seriously.
Maybe one way I can summarize the update is: still avoid doing things that I would generally tend to disapprove of longer timeline worlds, but also try to enjoy life a little more.
So, I mostly still don't eat junk foo... (read more)