Hi EA Forum,
I'm Holden Karnofsky I'm here to answer any questions about jobs at Open Philanthropy. I'll be here today from 9:30am to 12:30pm Pacific time (with some breaks) and will likely respond to comments later on as well.
We'd hate to miss out on strong applicants because of misconceptions about the roles, so I hope people will ask whatever is on their mind, on topics from office environment to day-to-day work to the likely long-term trajectory of the role. I think Open Philanthropy jobs are among the best possible ways for effective altruists to have impact, and I hope anyone who could imagine performing well in these jobs will at least consider applying!
Please post different questions as separate comments, for discussion threading.
Looking forward to it!
Added 12:32pm Pacific time: This concludes the "official" portion of the AMA, but feel free to post more questions; we may respond to them later on!
What are things that previous Research Analysts have struggled with at Open Phil? What are reasons others have found it not to be a good fit?
This is still a common practice. The point of it isn't to evaluate employees by # of hours worked; the point is for their manager to have a good understanding of how time is being used, so they can make suggestions about what to go deeper on, what to skip, how to reprioritize tasks, etc.
Several employees simply opt out from this because they prefer not to do it. It's an optional practice for the benefit of employees rather than a required practice used for performance assessment.
I’m pretty confused about the work of the RA role - it seems to include everything from epidemiological literature reviews to philosophical work on population ethics to following up on individual organisations you’ve funded.
Could you give some concrete info about how you and the RA determine what the RA works on?
If someone can't apply right now due to other commitments, do you expect there to be new roles for generalist research analysts next year as well? What are the best ways one could make oneself a better candidate meanwhile?
Thanks Holden and Luke for answering so many questions <3
Thinking in terms of broad generalisations/approximations - if you had to draw a graph depicting the value provided to OP by a new research analyst over time, what kind of shape would this graph have?
Or to ask the question in a different way: Are your efforts to hire for new OP roles motivated more by a desire to make better grants in the next couple of years, or by an intention to have a strong team in place several years from now which does high quality work in the future?
I'm graduating from the University of Michigan (Ann Arbor) with an Honors History degree this year. This gave me a nonstandard amount of experience with literature reviews and research for an undergraduate student. However, I've seen that OpenPhil generally prefers its candidates to have non-humanities majors.
1) Is the latter claim true?
2) In general, how does OpenPhil rate research experience that is not in the field(s) currently being explored?
A quick Google search gave me the impression that it isn't very easy to get a work visa in the US even though it will be sponsored. Is this correct, and do you have stronger requirements for non-US applicants because they'll be less likely to actually be able to work for you? (I'm completely unfamiliar with the visa system)
Here's a question I received via email, which I'll answer here so others can benefit from the answer.
QUESTION
Would you be able to give examples of how the research has been used for decision making around giving money/grants?
ANSWER
Sure, here are a few examples:
Keep in mind that Milan worked for GiveWell, not OP, and that he was giving his own impressions rather than speaking for either organization in that post.
That said:
*His "Flexible working schedule" point sounds pretty consistent with how things are here.
*We continue to encourage time tracking (but we don't require it and not everybody does it).
*We do try to explicitly encourage self-care.
Does that respond to what you had in mind?
Thanks, Holden, for the AMA and everyone for their questions!
When looking at the application form initially, there was a mentioning of an applied task as part of the application -- as far as I can tell this has now been removed.
Could someone confirm this change? Does that mean that the application now only consists of the Google Form plus resume in the first stage?
Thanks in advance!
Who is likely to manage new Grants Associates, Operations Associates, and Research Analysts?
What are the working hours like for a position like Research Analyst? Strict/flexible? 40 hours/week or other? What is the overtime like on average, and what is it like on peaks?
It seems that OpenPhil wants a more satisfactory answer to moral uncertainty than just worldview diversification before ramping up the amount of grants per year. Is this part of why you are hiring new Research Analysts, and if so, how much will they work on this problem? (This seems like a very interesting but hard problem)
The job description for Research Analyst says that the best candidates will have "comfort thinking in terms of expected value and using systematic, quantitative frameworks." How quantitative should a candidate be to apply? For example, if a person feels comfortable with basic expected value concepts but finds GiveWell's CEA overwhelming (and probably could never produce something similar to GiveWell's CEA), is that not quantitative enough?
Is there any possibility for the research analyst (or some other) role to be taken up completely remotely? (i.e. while living in another country)
What key metrics do research analysts pay attention to in the course of their work? More broadly, how do employees know that they're doing a good job?
I'm under the impression that holidays, sick days, and parental leave are on average much less generous in the US compared to Europe or Canada. What are your policies on time off work?
In my current field – biomedical research – there’s a tendency for the best researchers to be drawn towards important problem areas, but to then detour towards interesting problems instead of important ones when choosing a specific research topic. I think this is especially true for generalists, who often have a wider perspective on why the Really Cool problem is Really Cool. I’m guessing similar things happen in most fields. Does the Open Philanthropy Project try to combat this? As a Research Analyst, will the aim always be Important over Interesting?
Thanks! :)
How is doing research at Open Philanthropy different from doing research in academia? To make things concrete, how would the work of someone doing economic modelling or ML research in academia differ from typical research at OpenPhil?
How much collaboration exists between research analysts (or operations associates, for that matter)?
I decided against working in academic research because I do much better in a team environment (short feedback loops, bouncing ideas off peers, sense that my work contributes to shared purpose and projects) than I do working independently. I prefer the industry side of basically all of Philip Guo's industry vs. academia comparisons. Would it still make sense for me to apply for an OpenPhil job? I think I have relevant skills, but I'm worried that I wouldn't be effective in a research environment, even if it is non-academic.
Hi Holden,
the job description for Research Analysts says:
Could you please elaborate a bit more on the training and mentorship part? E.g.: How much time is reserved for training? Who would be the mentors? What would the relation with the mentor(s) be like?
Thanks for offering this Q&A!
Hey Holden, thanks for doing this. Suppose I applied for the research analyst position and didn't get it. Which of the following would then be more likely to eventually land me a job at OPP, and how much more likely (assuming I would perform well in both)?
a) becoming research analyst at GiveWell
b) doing research in one of OPP's focus areas (biosecurity/AI safety).
What's daily work and office culture look like in the OPP? Do you all host group activities, happy hours, or anything like that outside of working hours?
Somebody asked the following question:
Our reply is: Yes, that preference stands regardless of current work authorization status, though of course in some cases there won't be any way for us to help an applicant get US work authorization, depending on their situation.
1a. Has Open Phil set any aggressive org-wide goals or timelines for 2018?
1b. The published plan for 2018 says that OPP expects to give "well over $100 million" [1]. What is this expectation based on? Or is it a goal?
2a. Other than current funders, who considers the research coming from Open Phil RAs to be reputable, credible and useful? (ie. government?)
2b. Does it matter that RAs aren't PhDs or that Open Phil isn't directly affiliated with any educational institution?
[1] https://www.openphilanthropy.org/blog/our-progress-2017-and-plans-2018
If someone was looking to work for OPP would an honours* or masters program be more beneficial than an undergraduate degree?
Are there particular questions or areas that could be worked on for a research project in honours/masters that are particularly helpful directly or develop the right kinds of skills for OPP? (especially in economics, philosophy or cognitive science)
("Honours" in Australia is a 1 year research/coursework program)
What are the stages of the application process? What proportion of applicants do you expect to filter out at each stage?
What advice would you give to a potential OpenPhil hire re how to think about the value of joining OpenPhil full time vs starting an organization that OpenPhil would be likely to fund vs joining an organization that has already received funding from OpenPhil?
Is there a standard contract length you will offer RA's if there is no trial period?
I'm curious whether Open Phil has done any estimates of the relative impact of someone who goes to work for you vs someone who does direct work in one of your focus areas? All else equal (i.e., assume personal fit is the same, etc.), which option might be better?
What are the most important ways in which Open Phil's culture is different from GiveWell's culture?
Hi,
What would be the attitude towards someone who wanted to work with you after undergrad for a year or two, but then go on to graduate school (likely for philosophy in my case), with an eye towards then continuing to work with you or other EA orgs after grad school?
Do you recommend any textbooks (or other resources) that might help an applicant become more familiar with the expected value frameworks used at OpenPhil?
Hi Holden, nice initiative.
I have a question about the Research Analyst role. How generalist will they be? I can imagine them being somewhat focused on one or two focus areas besides more general issues such as how to implement moral uncertainty practically.
I really appreciate that your application form is so short, but what's the logic behind focusing on applicant's undergraduate degrees? What are you assessing in the application?
How do you enjoy living in/near and working San Francisco? How's the commute, the expensive housing, and all that affected your lives?
Is there any room in the application process for applicants to submit samples of original research or academic letters of recommendation?
Thank you!
How does Open Philanthropy weigh conformity against talent?
GiveWell is also hiring for several roles right now. How should a person decide whether to apply to GiveWell or Open Phil? Are there significant differences in the work culture? Do Research Analysts at each org take on similar types of tasks?
Hi there! Thank you for doing this. Is there a place for people who have just or recently finished their undergrad to help in your AI governance and policy position?
Meta: It might be good to announce AMA's in advance so that more people know to be online at that time.