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Hey Y'all, I'm Mar! I'm an undergraduate student studying Arts and Humanities with a focus in community engagement and a minor in Sustainable Natural Resource Recreation Management.

Learning about EA was entirely a coincidence. I started seeing more and more recommended tweets that interested and/or inspired me. I like the emphasis on reason and rationality, the acceptance of people of diverse world views, and that everyone seems genuinely kind. I followed more accounts, and saw "EA" in many of the bios. I had literally no idea what that meant, and didn't t... (read more)

5Vaidehi Agarwalla1d
Sociology major from a small liberal arts college here, and resonate with a lot of what you're saying. I wrote about my journey into EA here, in case that's helpful: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/kE3FRC5gq9QxMrn3w/what-drew-me-to-ea-reflections-on-ea-as-relief-growth-and [https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/kE3FRC5gq9QxMrn3w/what-drew-me-to-ea-reflections-on-ea-as-relief-growth-and] Fwiw my view is thay you can add a lot, but you'll have to work a little bit harder to figure out where the best place is for you. In my case, I have a good fit with community building and operations-type roles, and now product management also. I wrote my undergrad thesis on social movements, which was partially influenced by EA and I think helped me think more systematically about movement building. I think figuring out ways to explore areas you are particularly interested in through classes could be really interesting (one of the benefits of liberal arts is flexibility on coursework and essays!)

Hey everybody!

One of my friends is interested in learning more about EA and I am trying to find good resources to recommend to her. The thing is, her English is only so-so; her preferred language is Spanish. I found a couple websites that give brief overviews of some EA ideas, but I am having a hard time finding comprehensive EA texts in Spanish.

Does anyone know of any EA resources in Spanish that could be helpful?

Thanks!

5Lorenzo Buonanno1d
Maybe you can ask some of the local groups https://www.altruismoeficaz.org/grupos [https://www.altruismoeficaz.org/grupos] Ayuda Efectiva (https://ayudaefectiva.org/la-ayuda-efectiva [https://ayudaefectiva.org/la-ayuda-efectiva]) seems to have a lot of Spanish-language content, and their blog seems pretty active https://ayudaefectiva.org/blog [https://ayudaefectiva.org/blog] , but I'm not sure if it counts as "comprehensive EA texts"
3Jacob_Watts2h
I hadn't heard about Ayuda Efectiva, but it looks like a great introductory resource and I'll definitely send it to her. Reaching out to those groups might also be a good idea. I appreciate the help!

The prospect of Russia's grotesque invasion of Ukraine leading the use of beyond conventional weapons has produced anxiety in the past. I don't think this anxiety is justified.

Recently, there's been media reports suggesting the possibility of this escalation again, after sham claims of annexing Ukraine territory. 

Despite these media reports, the risk of this escalation is low. The report here from the "ISW" points this out, with detailed considerations.

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/special-report-assessing-putin%E2%80%99s-implicit-nucl... (read more)

Hi everyone, 

In this recent critique of EA, Erik Hoel claims that EA is sympathetic towards letting AGI develop because of the potential for billions of happy AIs (~35 mins) . He claims that this influences EA funding to go more towards alignment rather than trying to prevent/delay AGI (such as through regulation). 

Is this true, or is it a misrepresentation of why EA funding goes towards alignment? For example, perhaps it is because EAs think AGI is inevitable or it is too difficult to delay/prevent? 

Thanks very much! 

Lucas 

2Lucas Lewit-Mendes20h
Interesting, thanks both!
2n992d
I can't speak for the donors, but only trying to prevent AGI doesn't seem like a good plan. We don't know what's required for AGI. It might be easy, so robustly preventing it would likely have a lot of collateral damage (to narrow AI and computing in general). Doing some alignment research is nowhere near as costly, and aligned AI could be useful.
2Achim3d
While I am also worried by Will MacAskill's view as cited by Erik Hoel in the podcast, I think that Erik Hoel does not really give evidence for his claim that "this influences EA funding to go more towards alignment rather than trying to prevent/delay AGI (such as through regulation)".

Hi everyone!

About me

I'm a new PhD student in Computer Science (specifically Cloud-Edge computing). Interested in most CS technology and have a decent understanding of related subjects like AI, HPC, and math. Hobby interest in philosophy and psychology. I live in a small city in northern Sweden called Umeå.

Experience with EA

I'm completely new to the community. I have Will MacASkill's and his book "What We Owe the Future" to thank for finding this community Long time ago I read Yuval Noah Harari's books, specifically the "21 questions for the 21st cen

... (read more)
3Lorenzo Buonanno9d
Hi Sibo! You might be interested in talking with https://effectivethesis.org/ [https://effectivethesis.org/] and applying for career coaching at https://80000hours.org/ [https://80000hours.org/]
2sibo9d
Thank you for the tips! I'll check it out :)

Hi everyone!

I am a budding product designer for blockchain/web 3.0 projects who just recently discovered the Effective Altruism community.

Having done some work with Decentralized Autonomous Organizations (DAOs), it has become clear to me that they could become a vital part of EA of the future because they can enhance transparency and governance of effective altruism communities and projects.

They can also help to scale projects and fundraising campaigns.

As a member here I hope to contribute content which aims to educate community members who are new to cryp... (read more)

Hi everyone! First time writing on the forum. I'm a 2021 college graduate living in St. Paul/Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA. I learned about EA through an introductory ethics course I took while completing my philosophy degree. 

I'm still figuring out some early career strategies that can help me identify what would be a good fit for me while also adapting to a post-grad life. I've taken the GWWC Pledge and volunteer for farmed animals, I'm interested in reducing suffering of all animals (human and non-human) and I'm also learning more about existential r... (read more)

Hi all! I'm a 40 year old mom who just (re)discovered 80,000 Hours, and through it this forum. I am look at a career change (though I don't know if I really have had a "career" up to this point), and I have the luxury of taking some time to figure out where I could be most useful and enjoy what I'm working on.

I really like the concept of using my time/skills/money to do the most good, though I find that (I think like many people), I place slightly different value on some parts of EA vs. some of the introductory posts I have read. So far, I am interested in social justice issues, promoting/preserving democracy, what future government might look like, and the general preservation of human life through access to preventative medicine and stable food and water supply.

I have background/some skills in many areas, including electronics repair and manufacturing, inventory management, web design, copy writing, video editing, photography and photo editing, box office/front-of-house, retail customer service, shipping coordination, planning and facilitating children's programming. I don't really see how this might get me a job at a very EA-centric company, but who knows.

For now my goal is to learn and connect, so if you have any recommendations for things I should read or just want to say hi, please send me a message.

1Felix Wolf14d
Welcome Danielle, nice to see you here! The EA movement can help you with your career choices. I really recomment getting in touch with a group either local or virtual. If you want to learn more about EA, a Fellowship is a good way to learn together and share your different views and arguments or if you want to learn more which career would be a good fit for you book an 1o1 with someone. Don't be shy to hit on people and write them if you have an idea or a question. The community is here for you. :) PS: Reading recommendation time. I belive in you can only give a book away as a present which you have read yourself, so I will recommend you Sapiens: A Brief History of Humankind : Harari, Yuval Noah [https://www.amazon.de/Sapiens-Humankind-Yuval-Noah-Harari/dp/0062316095]. The title gives its premise away but it really helped me to extent my view on our species and the timescales we are dealing with (important for longtermism and our own historical perspective). I recommend it partially because I just finished Homo Deus [https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjz0r_YvaH6AhVzRPEDHWegDREQFnoECDEQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ynharari.com%2Fde%2Fbook%2Fhomo-deus%2F&usg=AOvVaw28N8jvgeGVbb1joDjpE6gB] from the same author and it makes a good addition to the first book. Also maybe look here: I scraped all public "Effective Altruists" Goodreads reading lists [https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/KNZLGbGevnjStgzHt/i-scraped-all-public-effective-altruists-goodreads-reading]

Hi, Folks! I'm Wahhab Baldwin, a 78-year-old retired software developer and manager and minister. I have donated at least 10% of my income for decades, strongly favoring effectiveness. I ran into EA through the Podcast interview with William MacAskill on "People I (Mostly) Admire." 

I strongly affirm much of EA, but I disagree with certain elements, and hope I am able to have some enlightening conversations here. I hope tomorrow to write a post on longtermism. As a preview, I will argue that we must discount a future good compared to a present good. It is better to save a life this year than to save a life next year. If we discount at the conservative rate of 2% per year, then a life 1000 years from now should be valued at 1/600,000,000 of a life today, meaning (imo) that we should really focus only on the next century. But before you argue, read my more detailed post! I look forward to our conversation. (Now at https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/xvsmRLS998PpHffHE/concerns-with-longtermism).

2Felix Wolf18d
Welcome to the EA forum Mr. Baldwin. I like to link to stuff others pointed out so it is easier to get to the content. Here is a link to the podcast episode of People I (Mostly) Admire with William MacAskill: Episode 86, A Million-Year View on Morality (52:31) "Philosopher Will MacAskill thinks about how to do as much good as possible. But that’s really hard, especially when you’re worried about humans who won’t be born for many generations." https://freakonomics.com/podcast/a-million-year-view-on-morality/ [https://freakonomics.com/podcast/a-million-year-view-on-morality/] "If we discount at the conservative rate of 2% per year [...]". This argument strikes me as one from Richard A. Posner presented in his book: Catastrophe: Risk and Response ( https://www.amazon.com/Catastrophe-Risk-Response-Richard-Posner/dp/0195306473/ [https://www.amazon.com/Catastrophe-Risk-Response-Richard-Posner/dp/0195306473/] ). This idea is known in the community but I am looking forward for your post and the discussion beneath it. :) Also big kudos to donating based on effectiveness over the past decades (and donating at all). I think this could also deserve a post, on your history of figuring out which donation is effective and how you choose between them.
1EcologyInterventions18d
I look forward to reading your post!

Hi everyone, there are animal rights groups working to introduce new ballot measures in the US in California and Oregon that could help animals in a significant way. In California, we are working to introduce a ballot initiative that will probably be a ban on new animal factory farms in all of California. We are having several possibilities tested by Faunalytics. We are also preparing to first pass a more radical measure banning animal factory farms in a semi-rural California county. This is a beta test for the California state ballot initiative. In Oregon... (read more)

Hi everyone! I have a question for moral philosophers here! People in animal advocacy sometimes debate about some type of "contrary to duty imperatives" in which an advocate makes a demand that might "countenance" some constraint violation. For example: "Please do not consume any animal products, but if you are going to eat some at all, at least leave fish, chicken and eggs off your plates" or "Stop using cage-eggs".  I found it surprisingly difficult to find academic discussion around the morality of uttering these sentences, so if you are aware of anything useful, please share!

1Yanay21d
Hello, although I am not a philosopher, I know and read philosophy, and I hope I can answer your question. (In addition, I am new to the forum - this is my first response - so I apologize if I deviated from the norms or if I misunderstood the conversation). I believe that the logic behind such sentences is a utilitarian view (Philosophy of Jeremy Bentham): "a little damage" is better than "complete damage". However, even with utilitarian considerations we must consider possible consequences of specific actions. For example: Is it possible that following a statement like this that you demonstrated, a third party will see and be legitimized to cause "little damage" instead of "zero damage"? Or, is it possible that the listener will thus be able to deal better with the conscience, and this will delay his future transition to "zero harm"? On the other hand, it is possible that without sentences like these, the listener will be silenced and will not be willing to think about the subject at all, and thanks to the gradual transition, he will be able to make a big change, which is difficult to make at once. These considerations move the discussion from philosophy to psychology and cognition. I believe that scientific articles on cognitive dissonance, intuitive morality, and autosuggestion would be useful here

Is there a good resource on moral views? I'm reading moral uncertainty at the moment, and Will touches on utilitarianism, consequentialism, etc. I thought to myself that it would be helpful to find a resource that lists most mainstream views and maybe help people navigate through them to understand them better and add credence to them. I could not find such a website. 

 

If anyone can point me to a good resource that can help me better understand these moral views, that would be awesome. Merci!

7emre kaplan23d
You may want to check out "Introductions, Handbooks, Collections" section of University of Oxford's ethics reading list [https://users.ox.ac.uk/~mert2255/teaching/undergrad_tutorials/103.pdf]. I personally prefer Shelly Kagan's Normative Ethics.
7wachichornia20d
got the book! Thank you emre!
1emre kaplan20d
Happy to help!

As Ukrainian woman who was forced to leave the country with two kids, I wonder how I can help Ukrainians to donate more efficiently. Ukrainians become more and more conscious and altruistic nation, but I am sure that most volunteers and donors are not efficient enough. I appreciate any information links on this cause. Thank you.

3sibo9d
I'm far from any expert in the subject but the GivingWhatWeCan organization [https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/best-charities-to-donate-to-2022] seems good at researching that.

Anyone interested in an EA unconference on gather dot town during EA global? Seems like an easy way to open up the event to those who weren't selected by the annointed and/or can't make it logistically. https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/dsCTSCbfHWxmAr2ZT/open-ea-global 

1ellie1mo
I'm super new to EA and I think something like that would be very beneficial for me.

I'm seeing that two posts are now starred. If I recall correctly, LW mods used to leave a comment explaining why when they did that, which I thought was a neat thing to do. I'd also appreciate a way to turn it off.

7Lizka1mo
Hi Nuño, thanks for this comment. I'll be trying to write comments going forward (I wrote one [https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/sW6RggfddDrcmM6Aw/how-might-we-align-transformative-ai-if-it-s-developed-very?commentId=QHFvMDiN8sZcYRLgu] for one of the posts I curated). Re: turning it off, I'll pass that on to the rest of the Forum team -- thanks for the feedback!
4NunoSempere1mo
Cheers Part of it is that it, like the pinned posts, just stay there, rather than disappearing for a while once I've seen them.
8NunoSempere1mo
Another part is that you now have pinned posts, curated posts and recommendations, instead of just having just one section.
2Lizka1mo
I agree that this is not ideal. We're hoping to clean this up and improve the structure.

Hi everyone.
I'm Riccardo working on a mobile game with a group of activists.

I decided to look into the EA forums again after listening to an interview with Will MacAskill on Ali Abdaal's YouTube channel, if you haven't seen it, it's one of the best interviews I have seen with Will.

I checked out the forums years ago, so I thought I'd give it another try and look a bit through the most popular posts and see what people here are up to.

Looking forward to see how things have developed since the last time

1Felix Wolf19d
Here is the video Riccardo mentioned: The Most Important Book I've Ever Read | Ali Abdaal (00:12:10) Ali describes himself as a former doctor who turned to be an entrepreneur and centers his videos about making money. @Riccardo, welcome back to the forum. I hope you found something interesting to read.
2Rowan18d
Here is the video Riccardo mentioned:
1Felix Wolf18d
I did not know about the second channel. Thanks for pointing it out. Riccardo said he watched an interview, my mistake. This youtuber seems to be popular, I saw some folks mentioning him here. Maybe I will give him a try.

Hello 

Who I am isn't very important, but like you, I endeavor to make the world a better place. To this end I write to who ever I think could make a difference and write essays on my blog. It all started when I stared into the darkness whilst standing in a railway truck that transported Jews to Auschwitz. After this harrowing experience, I thought "is this the way it is going to be? War and holocausts forever, as long as there are humans alive? Current events suggest yes, but I believe humanity can learn and avoid such a future. See my essay "A histor... (read more)

Hello, I'm a french citizen living in Bourges, France. I own a bachelor in wildlife conservation. I learned about EA through my personal curiosity about artificial intelligence and I also was wondering how to help biodiversity on the long term. I don't  work because of health problems but that won't stop me from doing my part as a volunteer.

Has EA engaged with the geopolitical risks of AI / AGI? For example regardless if AGI is developed, there are different risks if advanced AI is led and controlled by the CCP verus Open AI.

Hi all,

I am new to the forum, but not new to the ideas behind EA. I read Will's book back in 2015 when I met him in the US, and have been inspired to do the most good with my career. I have lurked on the forum for a while, but would like to meet more in the community so finally introducing myself. :)

I currently work on digital at the UNDP,  but also potentially open to new opportunities. 

I am curious to learn more about organisations working on longtermism policy research and advisory,  if there are any? 

I would love to connect with oth... (read more)

3Trev Prew1mo
Hi Jamie For Longtermism see UNESCO's declaration of the Responsibilities of Current Generations towards future Generations. Also the Welsh Assembly in the UK has a working Future Generations Commissioner www.futuregenerations.wales [www.futuregenerations.wales] Best Regards Trev Prew trevorprew.blogspot.com

Hi everyone! I'm trying to learn more about Land Use Reform (YIMBY) Advocacy as a cause area. Are there any cost-effectiveness estimates of the work on this?

1Locke1mo
I saw an estimate of I believe from the Gated City book that suboptimal land use policies in the US cost in the neighborhood of ~2% of GDP. So very high!
2Lorenzo Buonanno1mo
Hi Emre! You might be interested in the Land Use Reform [https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/topics/land-use-reform] forum topic, and the posts at the bottom of that page
2emre kaplan1mo
Thank you Lorenzo!

Hello All, 

I have been giving through Givewell to a charity for years (on and off) since hearing William MacKaskill on Sam Harris's podcast in 2016. 

I would absolutely love to get any feedback from the EA community on a movement / platform, called Value Life, that I would like to conceptualise. Or even where I could or should potentially post?  

A high-level overview is provided in my first Substack newsletter here (which contains a short (<4min) video about what the Value Life community and platform is, or is striving to be). 

https:/... (read more)

1Felix Wolf19d
Hello Ross, welcome to the EA community. Thank you for your short introduction and nice to hear that you changed your donation pattern since 2016 with the use of Give Well. I practice kickboxing, I figure I could learn something from you already. :D I am currently struggeling with what your goal of this post is. Maybe split it in parts next time. One for your biography, one for getting feedback an your Value Life and one where you promote yourself for a EA related job. Value Life is this foundation? https://noitidart.github.io/value-life-foundation-donate/ [https://noitidart.github.io/value-life-foundation-donate/] (VLF) If you are looking for a job, take a look at 80k. https://80000hours.org/ [https://80000hours.org/] 80k has a jobboard and they can give you career advice if you scheduel a 1o1 with them. https://80000hours.org/job-board/ [https://80000hours.org/job-board/] I recommend you read the handbook: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/handbook [https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/handbook] https://80000hours.org/key-ideas/ [https://80000hours.org/key-ideas/] And read an EA related book: https://www.effectivealtruism.org/resources/books [https://www.effectivealtruism.org/resources/books] https://80000hours.org/book-giveaway/ [https://80000hours.org/book-giveaway/] (get one for free here) If you have any questions feel free to ask. With kind regards Felix Wolf

Hi folks,

newcomer here.

I am looking for advice on what to do when i have -finally, at long last- finished my masters degree in bioprocess engineering at a major university in southern germany (KIT, Karlsruhe).

There is a lot of cool research going on here and staying at my cozy environment, working on a doctorate degree seems tempting. But staying in academia until i am fourty (which isn't too long anymore) could hamper my ability to find a job later.

I could most likely find a well-paying job in a major Pharma company, but working as a small gear in a big c... (read more)

6Felix Wolf19d
Hello Schwabilissimus, welcome to EA and congratz to finishing your masters degree! You can connect with the local community in Germany here: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/community [https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/community] There are multiple ways to get career advice in EA, here are some examples: https://80000hours.org/speak-with-us/ [https://80000hours.org/speak-with-us/] https://www.effektiveraltruismus.de/bibliothek/effektive-berufswahl [https://www.effektiveraltruismus.de/bibliothek/effektive-berufswahl] You can learn from written text, listen to podcasts about career building or schedule a 1o1 with someone in the EA sphere. I hope you have fun in the forum and find new insights for your journey.

As a brand new newcomer to EA, only a day or two, my fairly ignorant first impression is to wonder whether EA culture is too intellectual.  

It could be argued that the most successful effective altruism effort in the history of Western civilization has been Christianity.  (FYI, I'm not Christian)  As example, in the United States Catholic Charities is the second leading provider of services to the needy, topped only by the federal government.   And that's not counting the very many Protestant charity projects.

Certainly there is an intel... (read more)

1ludwigbald1mo
Hi and welcome to the community! I have a few rambly thoughts :D As far as I know, focusing on exposing potential high-achievers to EA has been both a consequence of EA history (EA comes from academia), and explicit strategy (high-potential people would probably have more impact, so it makes sense to focus on them). This means that the community inherits a lot of norms from academia. But I feel like there's a lot of room for the broader version of EA that's palatable for broader society. Giving what we can [https://www.givingwhatwecan.org/] is best positioned to do this, but I think the main points to spread outside the core community are roughly: 1. If you donate, be thoughtful about where you donate, some orgs have much more impact than others. 2. You should care a little bit about all of humanity. I think Christian charities seem really trustworthy, since everyone knows Christianity is serious about compassion.
3Phil Tanny1mo
Thank you for the welcome, and your rambly thoughts. :-) Yea, that makes sense. Rome wasn't built in a day as the saying goes, and EA had to start somewhere, and it's good that it did. Sadly, some ancient institutions such as the Catholic Church seem to have become expert at demolishing their own moral authority, so it's good that other means of reaching towards the same charitable goals are being established. I like it that EA appears to be ( a first impression) nether religious or secular, and instead just charitable. All that said, it seems it would be wise for EA activists to keep in mind that the Catholic Church is, in spite of all it's troubles, still truly massive, global, and very well established in the third world where so much of the need exists. If a partnership is not already being explored, there might be an opportunity there.

[FOUNDING ENGINEER JOB OPPORTUNITY]

Dear all,

My name is Drew Schneider and I am the co-founder and CPO at Chariot. Chariot is a payment network for the $420B+ in charitable donations. We build the financial infrastructure that connects nonprofits to complex charitable assets. Chariot is a mission-driven organization aiming to get more dollars into the hands of nonprofits around the world.

We are currently backed by Y Combinator (backed Airbnb, Stripe, Instacart, Coinbase), Spark Capital (backed Twitter, Snapchat, Plaid, Slack, Oculus), SV Angel (backed Googl... (read more)

4Lorenzo Buonanno1mo
Hi Drew! You might want to post in the Who's hiring thread [https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/DXcg6N6CGvRA2vrCk/who-s-hiring-may-september-2022] for more visibility

Dear all,

My name is Arturo Macias. I am a 45 years old economist working at Banco de España, the Spanish Central Bank. I have recently finished my Ph.D (see my ORCID account for my published papers: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-1623-0957) and consequently I have recovered a substantial amount of free time. 

While I have a great deal of simpathy to the whole Effective Altruism movement my main interest is related to intitutional desing and economic estabilization.  In my view among the main existential risk bottlenecks for this Dangerous Century, a ... (read more)

2Felix Wolf19d
Welcome Arturo. Changing our institutions to fit the existencial risks is a big part of EA. I hope you find a group where you can participate, learn something new and change the world to be a bit better than before. :)
3NunoSempere1mo
Welcome!

People with Twitter accounts might want to vote on my poll asking whether my EA forum comments should be more or less critical. 

Hey everyone! My name is Stew, and I'm a 22 year old recent college graduate. I first heard of effective altruism through the media I consume (podcasts, written media, etc.) and became further interested in the topic after taking a philosophy class at my university. I've lurked on this forum before and browsed sites such as 80,000 hours, but the recent momentum EA has gained in the mainstream has prompted me to create an account. Looking forward to interacting with all of y'all! Cheers. 

1Felix Wolf19d
Welcome!

Hi 👋 my name is Sarah, I’m 42 and I live in Calgary Canada.

I first heard about ‘doing good better’ from Sam Bankman-Fried, it was a very new and interesting topic to me and finally got me into EA.

Since I was 22 I’ve started donating a small portion of my income through sponsorship, the first family I sponsored was a mom with two very young kids who lost their dad in an accident. Today I have 4 families which introduced to me through a trustable friend and all are living in a middle eastern country. I believe in the world as a whole and I know a few dolla... (read more)

1Felix Wolf19d
Hello Sarah, welcome and thank you for your donations! Even if it makes you feel good to donate and you do it because of this good feeling it would be completely fine to feel this way. If not, also great. :) I am not part of the EA community in Canada but they seem to have seven local groups which you can join if you want. https://effectivealtruismcanada.com/groups/ [https://effectivealtruismcanada.com/groups/] Feel free to explore the forum and take a look into the handbook. https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/handbook [https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/handbook]

"Hello World!" 
My name's Fazle. 
I'm an 11th grader(2nd grade senior high) student in Indonesia.

I first came across EA from the book 'Impact' by Christen Brandt and Tammy Tibbetts.
I bought this book alongside 2 other books, 'Immune' & 'Kingdom of Speech'
Forgot the specific reason why I choose Impact & Kingdom of Speech out of all available books I could choose, but one thing for sure is 'to broaden my horizons.'
Immune coz its Kurzgesagt's.
At the time, when 'Impact' mentioned Effective Altruism, I have no idea what is it. 
Is this some ... (read more)

1Felix Wolf19d
Welcome Fazle, a good way to learn more about EA is to participate in the Intro Fellowship. Take a look here: https://www.effectivealtruism.org/virtual-programs/introductory-program [https://www.effectivealtruism.org/virtual-programs/introductory-program] I watched the Kurtzgesagt video too and was so hyped if it would bring new people to the plattform. Nice to see you here. I hope you can get the necessary information for you out of here and learn something. :)
2Ross McMath1mo
Love the passion Fazle. Welcome brother!
1ludwigbald1mo
Hi Fazle! I think local groups are a great way to engage with EA. I've met a few EAs from Indonesia, but I'm not sure about the state of local groups there. Maybe you can contact Bradley [https://www.effectivealtruism.asia/people/bradley-gunawan] and ask if there are local or online meetups in your area :)
2Erich_Grunewald1mo
Welcome!

Hi all!  My name's Tom. I'm an A level student in the UK, currently studying Politics, Philosophy and Environmental Science. My main forays into the world of altruism include volunteering at Oxfam for a period and donating to the odd charity here or there. Admittedly though, Oxfam isn't a very effectively targeted organisation, and the charities I have previously donated to have been more based on superficial measures such as my respect for people who endorse them or have been motivated by disaster responses.

The issue I'm most concerned about is Clima... (read more)

1Felix Wolf19d
Hello Tom, welcome to the EA community. I also encountered EA related topics countless times before joining (Give Well, 80k, LessWrong, ...). Nice to see you here. :) Now to your questions. I dont know if 80k works with career advisers in educational institutions, but I know that they will answer your question fast and in detail if you write them directly: https://80000hours.org/about/contact-us/ [https://80000hours.org/about/contact-us/] Doing good better is published in 2015. Carbon capture and sequestration is still future tech and does not resolve the problem with rising climate gases. Simon Clark did a video on this topic lately, condemning the tech: Have a look into the IPCC report and look for yourself: https://report.ipcc.ch/ar6wg3/pdf/IPCC_AR6_WGIII_SummaryForPolicymakers.pdf [https://report.ipcc.ch/ar6wg3/pdf/IPCC_AR6_WGIII_SummaryForPolicymakers.pdf] Why not just donate to the best cause? The best cause is specific to you. It is good practice to splitt your donations on different cause areas, since you have different interests and want to improve the world in different areas. If everyone would be like a perfect robot and is only donating to the best cause at the time every donation would go to them, thus making everyone else neglected which would make them the best cause in return. You don't have to donate strictly to one cause area, feel free to decide in which area you want to have an impact and then search where you could make the biggest impact. Nice to see that you have read quite some EA literature and that you are working together with your students to make the world a better place. The saying goes in the education for Sustainable Development:"think globally, act locally."
1Ross McMath1mo
Welcome Tom! Excellent subjects to dive into and further yourself! Stick at it!

Hello all! I'm Lauren. I'm a startup founder working on an app to make it easy to measure impact. We ultimately want everyone who is putting effort into creating good to be able to measure it, prove it,  improve it, share it, and scale it... We want to make Measurement/Evaluation (M/E) woes a thing of the past so that we can collectively put an end to ineffective and harmful effort. #shouldbeeasyright

Would love to connect with anyone here who also works in M/E or needs help with your impact practice/ data collection/ measurement/ reporting. Very excited to have come across this community!

-Lauren Schwaar and the Fathom Performance team

Hi all. Vastav here. I live in India, and am pursuing my undergraduate studies in Economics and Computer Science. I am primarily interested in issues around urban economics, judicial functioning , and quality of higher education in developing countries.

I found EA while looking for interesting topics for my undergraduate dissertation. The ITN framework really clicked for me, and helped me find a suitable passion and research agenda for myself. 

For now, I hope to pursue a PhD in economics, contributing to research and solutions in areas that pique my in... (read more)

Hi. I'm based in the UK, and run a sizeable reuse/regifting movement called Freegle (www.ilovefreegle.org).

After reading too much Peter Singer, I donated a kidney and am involved in the Give A Kidney charity, which promotes non-directed (aka "altruistic") kidney donation.

None of this is effective as cataract operations, of course.

1ludwigbald1mo
Hi Edward, you seem like a cool guy! Welcome here!

Hi: I'm Sharmake Farah that has been in the forum since February.

I got to EA by getting a free book called The Precipice, which introduced genuinely novel concepts to me like existential risks, longtermism and our potentially very long future ahead. While I got used to the scales, it's still large enough to matter.

I made my first post today, focusing on AI ethics and alignment fields fighting, and why that's bad. Here it is: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/AARnvz99hiEytnA9k/there-are-two-factions-working-to-prevent-ai-dangers-here-s

My biggest imp... (read more)

Are any of the more philosophically incline EA's into the pragmatic school? There's obviously a (very!) strong consequentialist strain here though I could see engaging with pragmatists like Dewey, Rorty and others to be super helpful to this movement. 

Have any prominent EA philosophers engaged with critiques of consequentialism? Are there canoncial examples of those that people might point to? I don't really have a desire to write a several thousand word essay though would be curious what more philosophically inclined EA's think of works like "Beyond Consequentialism" by my old prof Paul Hurley. ( https://www.amazon.com/Beyond-Consequentialism-Paul-Hurley/dp/0199698430

2MakoYass1mo
You might be interested in this thing from within the EA community which I think might be one of the deepest possible cuts against consequentialism: Logical Decision Theory [https://arbital.com/p/logical_dt/] (or any solution to newcomb's problem), but afaik, no one's written about this angle on it, because it's pretty arguable that it's just advocating for a different kind of consequentialism. But I don't totally buy those arguments: LDT advocates doing things that will have bad outcomes, when being the kind of person (or the kind of decision theory) who would do those things gets it better outcomes on average across all possible worlds. In human-level application, this ends up looking a bit more like advanced virtue ethics than consequentialism, to me. On the other hand, I've seen it argued that regular consequentialism ends up looking like virtue ethics too.

Hey, I'm Jeffrey Arana. Raised and reside in Hudson County, NJ. I live right across Manhattan so you might have seen me in EA NYC events.

I first heard about EA through the Peter Singer TED Talk and then went down that rabbit hole. I kind of fell off and would donate 10% of my paychecks here and there until Sam Harris interviewed Toby Ord a year ago and got me thinking about having a career in EA.

Some personal non-EA things about me: I love to play and watch football (I'm sorry, soccer),  penny board around NYC and my neighborhood, try cooking some new... (read more)

3Weaver1mo
Oh hey! Another Rutgers guy! I'm still working in Jersey so let me know if I can help out in some small way with your EA Chapter.

I would like to address the cyberbullying that downvoted my comment here: https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/posts/jhCGX8Gwq44TmyPJv/ea-s-culture-and-thinking-are-severely-limiting-its-impact?commentId=WNqs7wH8WBEQq6xjb#WNqs7wH8WBEQq6xjb

 

Saying "it might be worthwhile to consider the source" is very different than "an ad homin" attack. Honestly the norm of never considering the source ignores the very practical cui bono school of public discourse and really just speaks again to the EA implicit academic naivete and assumptions. 

@Lizka, a cool forum feature would be a Google Doc/.docx → Forum Post converter. There are free .docx → Markdown converters online, but they're inconvenient for footnotes and some of the other EAF features.

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4Cullen_OKeefe2mo
Ah! I was ignorant of this. Thank you!
3Lizka2mo
I'm glad people are finding the new feature useful (I've fought with Forum post footnotes before and was really excited about the development). And thanks @Lorenzo for sharing the link!

Is it possible to subscribe to a sequence?

If not, I'm suggesting this feature :)

Hi! My name is Liza Munk, and I found out about EA through an ad on the podcast, Dear Hank and John. I'm working on making a career pivot away from academia but not yet had luck finding a new job, so I found it really refreshing to stumble upon a more optimistic message about my ability to find a high impact career. My MA and PhD are in ethnomusicology, the cultural anthropology of music, and I did my research as a Fulbright Fellow in Amman Jordan. It was never boring! But I grew increasingly frustrated with academia and am so looking forward to finding work that is collaborative at its core, respectful of work-life boundaries, economically secure, and remote (if not local) so that I can stay close to my family. I have a lot more reading, thinking, and brainstorming to do before I can narrow down which high impact area(s) exactly I'm most passionate about, but I can tell you how nice it was to hear a reference to cultural anthro on the podcast - having a high impact on the Ebola epidemic. I would love to connect and talk more! You'll find my contact info on my profile

1pete2mo
Which podcast episode covers EA? That's cool!
4Felix Wolf19d
dear hank & john 002 - It's a Humor Podcast! (a very brief mention at question 1) https://nerdfighteria.info/v/210501999/ [https://nerdfighteria.info/v/210501999/] This redditor asked a related question: "Did Hank and/or John ever comment on effective altruism? Where?" https://www.reddit.com/r/nerdfighters/comments/nrikvp/did_hank_andor_john_ever_comment_on_effective/ [https://www.reddit.com/r/nerdfighters/comments/nrikvp/did_hank_andor_john_ever_comment_on_effective/] (it says 1 comment but I am unable to find it, mabye I dont know reddit too well) A Beautifully Foolish Endeavor by Hank Green could be considered EA related: https://ea.greaterwrong.com/posts/5aM8qQE3Pq9D8HxrR/fiction-about-ai-risk [https://ea.greaterwrong.com/posts/5aM8qQE3Pq9D8HxrR/fiction-about-ai-risk] There was a cooperation with their charity event: "Join our Project for Awesome workshop to make videos for high-impact charities, in order to win money for them and introduce them to a wider audience! During Project for Awesome, a community-driven charitable event created by Hank and John Green, thousands of people create videos advocating for various charities. Then, people vote for their favorite videos during a 48-hour continuous live stream. Last year, the effective altruism community won about $190,000 split across 7 charities: The Against Malaria Foundation, The Good Food Institute, GiveDirectly, Clean Air Task Force, The Humane League, Givewell Maximum Impact Fund, and Wild Animal Initiative. Three of the EA community's videos were featured, and John gave a shoutout to EA." https://www.gatech.edu/event/2022/02/17/project-awesome-video-making [https://www.gatech.edu/event/2022/02/17/project-awesome-video-making] So they know GiveWell and Effective Altruism.
3pete19d
Very cool. Thank you, Felix!
2Guy Raveh2mo
Not really EA-related, but your research sounds really interesting (I'm a musician) and I'd love to hear more about it :)
2Kirsten2mo
Dear Hank and John is my favourite podcast. I'm so glad you found EA through it!
2niplav2mo
Updating existing content is great :-D

Reflecting a bit on the EA call for criticisms, one obvious challenge to the movement is cities like San Francisco. That's a city with tons of EA aligned folks and yet spending a lot of philanthropic dollars to alleviate hunger in Africa or address AGI risk in the future while there's massive human immiseration all around the city just seems extremely dystopian. Here's a good Atlantic article on the issues in SF for those that are curious: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/06/how-san-francisco-became-failed-city/661199/

5Karthik Tadepalli2mo
Say more about why it feels dystopian? Totally agree that the situation in SF is bad. but it feels good to me that EA aligned people see how much worse it is in other places, and don't prioritize what's near to them over where the most suffering is.
0Locke2mo
Would it be altruistic to walk past a person dying in the streets so you can close an extra deal, make an extra buck and send that to a far away place to help a few more people? That seems rather cold and calculating and not in a good way. There definitely are people suffering to a high degree in SF btw. The homeless situation is quite dire.
3Karthik Tadepalli2mo
It similar doesn't seem altruistic to help people on the streets close to you and ignore poor people in a different country just because they are far away. No situation short of "help everybody" really sounds appealing. Short of solving all problems in the world, prioritizing problems is necessary. What's wrong with prioritizing problems based on where the most suffering is?

Hello! I'm Kyle, based in Pittsburgh, U.S.A. I am an interdisciplinary researcher and communications professional, also with significant experience in United States and United Nations policy. I am only a few months old to the EA community. However, I have been working for most of my career so far in EA-adjacent efforts in climate change. I currently work for myself in that field. But, in conjunction with career counseling with 80,000 Hours and others, I am job hunting for an explicitly EA position, ideally in AI safety/alignment. I would love to connect wi... (read more)

Could we have a higher karma discount for community posts? Almost every post on the frontpage for the past few weeks has been a community post, and I think karma inflation has outpaced the effect of the current discount. It would be nice for the EA forum frontpage to not be an endless pit of meta...

1NunoSempere2mo
+1!
3Sarah Cheng2mo
In case you didn't know, you can customize your frontpage [https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/s/s5zDhfyRPvrpeuRf8/p/2jYDXwqSj87ZjLtwy] so that you see less community posts.
1Karthik Tadepalli2mo
Oh sweet! I'll definitely do this. I would still support changing the karma discount factor since it's not just about what I see, but this is a good start...

Hey all! 😊

My intuition leads me to think that focusing on improving life quality and eradicating poverty in all forms (not just extreme) would be highly impactful. This is because lifting more people out of poverty means that they have more free time to pursue self actualization, and therefore more likely to pursue EA and an impactful career. It's essentially the idea behind egoistic altruism (cute video below).

Essentially, I feel that egoistic altruism would be a highly effective purpose to orient my career around. However, my search results haven't turn... (read more)

6Sharang Phadke1mo
Welcome! And thanks for posting this. I agree that it's valuable to recognize the downstream impact that making the world a better place can have on your own livelihood. However, the feedback cycle is likely to be decades or longer, and might be hard to use as motivation on a daily basis. In my experience it's valuable to have more immediate motivators, such as the welfare you might be creating directly with a job focused on making the world a better place, the team you might be working with, or a passion for the technology or product you are working on itself. Technology is surely a mechanism for reducing poverty (think of the industrial revolution, green revolution, vaccines and drugs). However, a large chunk of our technological output also goes towards marginal quality of life improvements for the already-rich.

Im curious, why do you think EA has not taken off into the main stream ? Rationally it should be the #1 charitable cause in the world but its not. Why do you think this is ? 

1Phil Tanny1mo
In a comment above I wondered whether EA culture is too intellectual to have broad appeal.

Hi everyone!


I'm director of learning for a French ed tech startup focused on evidence-based learning.

I believe I found out about effective altruism proper from Vox around 2015. Had also gone down the existential risk rabbit hole around 2013-2014 while a student but did not make the connection between those issues at the time.

I recall EA arguments influencing  my career decision in 2016 as I had just left my previous company and was considering many opinions - to this day, I am thankful for being introduced to a framework that helped me reason through ... (read more)

Hi everyone! I'm new to this forum. I'm a professor at ASU who studies cooperation. I'm also an author, a podcaster and I produce educational video content. I am excited to explore the connections between my research and EA. This morning I made a post about need-based transfers, one of the topics that I work on, and how those might fit within EA frameworks.  I'm looking forward to interacting with you all and learning from the community.

Are we already past the precipice? Would we know if that was the case? I really wonder. Things seem to be spiraling. Many of todays conditions mirror the malaise and misery of the 1930s but the capacity for destruction is orders of magnitude higher. I wonder if we need to act with much greater urgency and boldness to be more proactive about XR..... 

1DonyChristie2mo
What might your plan be?

Has anyone fully dug into the AI credulity risk? By that I mean the XR scenario where a technology A) believes they've invented AGI and B) acts on the belief in Ozymandian fashion. Note A does not require actually inventing AGI. It just requires that like the recent Google employee that they believe it to be so. And note B does not require that they actually have evil intent. Often in fact evil can be done by a desire to do good.  I believe that this is a nontrivial risk and compounded by the availability of technologies, the potential future upside t... (read more)

Hi friends!

I'm Nita, and I'm passionate about limiting sentient suffering through disease prevention. I was initially drawn to effective altruism because I consider it a natural extension of minimalism and intentional living.

I have been sick for half my life with various conditions including chronic cystitis, dysautonomia, inflammatory bowel disease, and Ehlers-Danlos syndrome.

My goal is to translate my experiences into educational resources in order to effect positive change and encourage patient advocacy. Towards this end, I host a health podcast aimed a... (read more)

Anyone interested in real estate investing want to potentially be my mentor? 

I was thinking we would eventually talk on the phone maybe twice a month. 

I am a young electrical engineer, childfree, in Wisconsin. I'm plant based at home; try to eat vegan when going out to eat, but usually end up eating vegetarian. I used to donate 1% in college (per GiveWell's student pledge), but since then I'm more focused on end of life donation (Earning to Give). Or maybe I should set up a trust or something. 

I am analytical and resourceful. I am refining m... (read more)

Can you help write test prompts for GPT-EA? I want testcases and interesting prompts you want to see tried. This helps track and guide the development of GPT-EA versions. The first version, GPT-EA-Forum-v1 has been developed. GPT-EA-Forum-v2 will include more posts and also comments.

Hello!

I'm Arjun Khemani, a student in high school. I have a blog and podcast that revolves around science, philosophy and the human condition.

Signing up for the Forum had long since been an overdue after hearing all its incredible comments! But I'm glad to be here now.

Problems of interest to me include changing the way education is done and making humanity a multi-planetary species. 

Looking forward to having interesting discussions on doing the best we can.

You can DM me on Twitter. (I love meeting new people!)

Hello everyone,

My name is Bary, I'm currently recovering from a 2-year-long anxiety and depression episode, which I partly attribute to me joining EA around that time. I am really thankful for this community, and for the amazing people here that helped me recover.

I'm writing a piece for the red teaming contest about community mental health. If since joining or learning about EA, you suffered from a mental health problem, even a minor one, or felt less satisfied with your job or life, I would like to have a 1:1 with you. Feel free to ping me here, on barylevi@gmail.com, or on Discord Bary#6478

Of course, if you feel like talking about your experience can cause you distress, please pass this opportunity. I am not a mental health professional and I will not be able to help.

3pete2mo
Excited to see the result - think this is a great contribution to the community. I suspect that a lot of us are heading into longtermist work (ex: xrisk reduction) without proper psychological footing and that more support in the movement would go a long way towards reducing burnout...good luck, Bary!
5Guy Raveh3mo
Hi Bary! While my chronic condition isn't a mental illness, it still dictates what most of my engagement with EA can look like. I'm really glad to see comments and projects like yours, and I'd like to encourage others in EA to feel safe to talk about their illnesses and disabilities.

Hello everyone, I am a new forum member. 

I am 29, live in Geelong, Australia and discovered the EA community through reading LessWrong a few years ago. I have paid attention to it since then, as well as read some of the canonical books and set up a regular automated donation. With this considered, I have since realised I should be more proactive in reaching out and connecting with people. Especially as I am currently going through a transitional phase in my career.

Originally I completed a bachelor's and master's in exercise science and worked within the strength and conditioning industry from the age of about 21-27. After that, I worked in the mental health industry for 12 months and now work in government. This transition came about during COVID-19  after I took the plunge of learning to code. I loved the challenge and after gaining some basic skills, I decided to re-enrol at university for an undergraduate in artificial intelligence. 

From about 24 onwards I had fantasised about changing careers and working in a space that was more pressing and impactful -- particularly AI alignment -- but felt I had already chosen my path and had to stick with it. (How naive of me!... (read more)

Hello!  

I am a newer forum member.  I have a BS in Math and an MBA, and work in healthcare data analysis (sometimes called data science); been doing jobs along these lines for 20 years.  I also run a small charitable foundation setup by a now deceased relative.

I've been vegan since about 2015.  In 2018 I started thinking about having a second career that was more directly impactful.  My thinking was something like "Some kind of charity, something to help animals maybe?  But I can't really imagine being a full time sanctuary worker.  Wouldn't someone else be better suited?  Maybe work for a big org like the Humane Society...but they are really focused on pets and I think that is not the biggest problem.  Maybe start my own organization.  Maybe I should continue to work in healthcare as some kind of advocate.  Pro Publica did that great opioid reporting, could I do something with them?"  And on and on; I didn't love any of the options so put the thinking on pause.

In 2020 I read Doing Good Better.  That was the start of a learning binge that has continued through today.  It feels like EA is a great fit for me.  ... (read more)

New member here. I teach American government and learned about effective altruism through The Scout Mindset and Julia Galef's podcast.

Can anyone point me towards resources to help with finding an actually competent psychiatrist for ADHD and depression? It'd be even better if anyone has experience with and can recommend a Texas-based psychiatrist.

Hi! New here. I had a question about donations and the processing fees. Is there a specific rate or fee that Stripe charges for credit/debit donations? I'm trying to gauge which route to go given the fee structure + admin overhead. 

I believe I read somewhere that manual transfers + wires have more admin overhead such that they may only be beneficial if the donation exceeds $1000.  Is that true? 

I believe my options to donate are only a Wire Transfer with my bank. It only offers Zelle, Bill Pay, and Wire Transfers. The wire transfer comes with a reasonably high fee. So I'm trying to assess which is more beneficial for the o

5ellie2mo
Hi Alex! Strip charges 2.9% + $0.03 for most debit or credit card payments (plus extra for currency exchange or international cards). Stripe also supports ACH (eCheck) payments, which all bank accounts support, with a fee of 0.8% or $5.00, whichever is less. If the organization's Stripe account already has ACH allowed, this should be no trouble for them. Givewell asks to receive donations under $1000 through card payment and over $1000 through check. However, not all charities are Givewell - some are happy to receive a check at $500, for instance. Lastly, don't forget to check to see if you can use a workplace charity matching program, as many of them cover credit card fees in addition to matching your donation.

Is there a way to search for sequences in this forum? There are some sequences that seem really good, like “Winners of the First Decade Review”, but I’m struggling to find sequences other than happening to find a post that’s part of a sequence, and then clicking on the sequence banner at the top. Any help would be great! :)

(Perhaps this has been talked about before, and I’d be grateful for being pointed in the right direction if so - though when I quickly searched just now, I wasn’t able to find an answer.)

There's a link to "library" in the menu on the left of the homepage.

It links to https://forum.effectivealtruism.org/library which has a list of sequences at the bottom.

Fwiw, looks like reciprocity.io (a Rationalist and EA dating site) has recently been upgraded. Thank you Buck for your work on this

Here’s me just jumping in to break the ice and lower the bar to entry for other folks thinking about maybe posting something in this thread!

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