(about careers)
Note that advisors only committed to answering questions during Career Conversations Week. Don't expect responses past EOD Friday.
As part of Career Conversations Week on the EA Forum, I’ve gathered together some impact-focused career advisors to answer any questions you might have.
Career Advisors from Probably Good, Successif, Animal Advocacy Careers and 80,000 Hours will be online throughout the week to answer your questions. Interested and knowledgeable readers are also welcome to chip in! Leave your questions as comments below.
If your question is about applications at impact-focused orgs, ask some recruiters directly, on this AMA.
Some details on our advisors:
Probably Good is a nonprofit organisation dedicated to helping people build careers that are good for them and good for the world. They offer online guides, a job board, and one-on-one advising, among other services.
Successif offers tailored one-on-one career guidance to experienced professionals interested in transitioning into technical AI risk or AI governance and policy work.
Animal Advocacy Careers bridges the critical talent gap within the effective animal advocacy movement, ensuring passionate, skilled professionals are matched with the roles where they can do the most good. By anticipating organisations’ staffing needs, AAC helps animal‑focused nonprofits accelerate towards their visions, thereby reducing animal suffering worldwide. AAC does this through its free career guide, free online course, numerous blog posts, targeted workshops, constantly updated job board, and one‑to‑one advising calls that empower individuals to transform their careers into powerful tools for change.
80,000 Hours is a nonprofit that helps people use their careers to solve the world’s most pressing problems. They’re currently especially focused on helping people positively shape the trajectory of AI, because they think it presents the world’s most serious and urgent challenges. They provide resources (including a career guide, job board, and one-on-one advising calls) to help people understand the issues, get jobs working on them, and make connections with others doing the same thing. You can sign up to 80k’s career advising here.
The kind of questions you might like to ask:
Don’t feel restricted by this list; it’s just here to get you thinking!
- I’ve recently graduated from university with a degree in computer science, but I don’t want to work on AI. Where can I have the most impact?
- I want to have an impact with my career, but I really just want to dance! What should I do?
- I’ve got five years experience as a digital marketer, but I want to do something that helps animals. Should I volunteer?
Note that we can't guarantee that the advisors will have time to answer every question.
What is your general advice for people with no formal education or qualifications?
It seems to me that most of the career advice, on 80,000h for example, concerns people with a university education or with good financial capital, because they are obviously over-represented in this field. But what advice can you give to ‘blue-collar’ people who would like to have a useful career in line with EA ideas?
As the question is broad and impersonal, I don't know if you have any relevant answers to give.
Thanks for the question! I agree with what Tom Rowlands wrote in his response, and just want to add a couple things. The world is full of neglected problems that cause a lot of harm, and people working in the information economy don't have a monopoly on identifying or solving them. For example, your question reminded me of Jesse Smith's article in Asterisk Magazine about HVAC, indoor air quality, and pandemic prevention. Jesse is an HVAC technician that has been following the EA community and its ideas for years, and I think he thoughtfully applied the framework to his area of expertise. I'd imagine that firsthand arguments like this could help policymakers improve indoor air quality, such as Alex Bores' bill in New York State.
So applying rare and valuable skills to a pressing problem can take many forms. I'm not sure what your version of this is, but I bet there is something. We're lucky that for all its flaws, the internet helps us "work in public" to make our skills legible and apply them to real problems.
One obvious answer here that hasn't come up yet -- they can take the 10% pledge! And, of course, hustle at their current job, work their way up, and earn-to-give or build management skills that can later be useful for jobs at direct work organizations
Hi RobotDeChair. Thanks for the question - I always appreciate the chance to engage with people who don't think they're represented enough in EA.
As you say, it can be hard to give very broad advice here, but I think the first thing to say is that there are loads of ways you can have impact without formal education/qualifications. For starters, you can filter for jobs without formal education requirement on the PG jobs board, and as someone who has worked in and around recruiting in EA for a few years now, I do think hiring managers in this community put less stock in credentials than hiring managers in large swathes of the corporate world. Applying to some of these roles and doing work tests and interviews is unlikely to be wasted effort.
Of course 'EA jobs' are not the only way to have impact. Building demonstrable skills, experience, and connections is going to be useful in whatever sector you work in, and if you develop good career capital, there's every chance you're able to put that to good use in the longer term. It's hard to be more specific without knowing more of your background, but I'd be excited to discuss that if you want to DM me, or apply for our 1:1 advising.
It's not exactly what you were asking, but I also think it's hard to say how a future with increasingly powerful AI will change the market for educational qualifications. My guess is that the value of some credentials will really drop, while others will increase, but I defer to Ben Todd's excellent article on which those are.
Thanks again for the question!
I expect it'd be possible to build some good ops experience in blue collar roles.
There are some great replies here from career advisors -- I'm not one, but I want to mention that I got into software engineering without a university degree. I'm hesitant to recommend software engineering as the safe and well-paying career it once was, but I think learning how to code is still a great way to quickly develop useful skills without requiring a four-year degree!
Hi, thanks for your question.
A good way to start might be to think about the transferrable skills that you are applying in your current job, as well as those that motivate you (motivational skills) and that you are curious and excited to learn. Having no further context on the type of blue-collar work, I try to give some inspiration:
Maybe a next step could be to find people with similar specialisations in organizations that inspire you, and connect with them. The larger your network, the more likely you are to find your next opportunity through a friendly referral.